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Old March 11th 04, 10:56 PM
G.R. Patterson III
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Jack Davis wrote:

It's much easier to accurately size up the situation during a
stabilized approach.


For the most part, that's correct, and I never use a crab approach in the Maule,
but it is a fact that the wind will frequently be gentler below 50' AGL. If you
abandon the approach at 100' or so, you'll never find this out.

George Patterson
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not yield to the tongue.
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Old March 11th 04, 11:07 PM
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Jay Honeck wrote:

That's interesting. From my student days I was always taught to fly a
stabilized approach, from abeam the numbers on crosswind, all the way till
the flare.


That's because most CFIs are building time for the majors and they tend to train
you as if you were planning to fly jets too. If you get a CFI who isn't planning
on doing anything except flying light aircraft and convince him that you don't
intend to do anything else either, you frequently get different instructions.
Even if this is not the case, if you ask a CFI why he recommends a particular
course of action, the answer frequently is that you need to get in the habit of
doing whatever 'cause you need to do it that way "when you upgrade to higher
performance aircraft".

George Patterson
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Old March 12th 04, 02:26 AM
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For the most part, that's correct, and I never use a crab approach in the
Maule,
but it is a fact that the wind will frequently be gentler below 50' AGL.

If you
abandon the approach at 100' or so, you'll never find this out.


Very true. There were many approaches into little Sylvania Field (C89)
where I was just *barely* able to maintain runway alignment, until about 30
feet off of the runway. Then things routinely would smooth out nicely.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


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Old March 14th 04, 09:10 PM
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BTIZ wrote:

with that much wind.. if you really needed to be there... ask to land on
the cross taxiway..


Ask whom?

At a towered airport, can the tower approve this? What about at a
nontowered airport?

- Andrew

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Old March 14th 04, 09:14 PM
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G.R. Patterson III wrote:

Even if this is not the case, if you ask a CFI why
he recommends a particular course of action, the answer frequently is that
you need to get in the habit of doing whatever 'cause you need to do it
that way "when you upgrade to higher performance aircraft".


Sometimes, though, that's the right answer. After reading the POH for the
retract that was to be the first complex I'd ever fly, I mentioned to my
CFII "so *that's* why you want me to tap on the brakes on departure".

- Andrew

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Old March 14th 04, 09:15 PM
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Jay Honeck wrote:

Jay, I thought your were joking about the boat.


Nope -- dead serious.

It's the biggest boat you'll ever see on an inland lake. Hell, it would
be considered good sized on the Great Lakes.


I smell a new website: The toys my plane helped my A&P to buy.

- Andrew

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Old March 15th 04, 12:06 AM
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Andrew Gideon wrote:
BTIZ wrote:


with that much wind.. if you really needed to be there... ask to land on
the cross taxiway..


The answer will be no.





Ask whom?

At a towered airport, can the tower approve this?


No. The airport manager however, can.


What about at a
nontowered airport?


Who cares, just land.

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Old March 15th 04, 12:08 AM
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Andrew Gideon wrote:

G.R. Patterson III wrote:


Even if this is not the case, if you ask a CFI why
he recommends a particular course of action, the answer frequently is that
you need to get in the habit of doing whatever 'cause you need to do it
that way "when you upgrade to higher performance aircraft".



Sometimes, though, that's the right answer.


Only if you are going to move to a different aircraft soon. If not then
it's a bunch of BS.

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Old March 15th 04, 03:51 PM
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Newps wrote:

Only if you are going to move to a different aircraft soon. If not then
it's a bunch of BS.


One of the advantages of flying a Maule is that no CFI criticizes you for raising
the flaps on the runway.

George Patterson
Battle, n; A method of untying with the teeth a political knot that would
not yield to the tongue.
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Old March 15th 04, 09:00 PM
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On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 15:51:27 GMT, "G.R. Patterson III"
wrote:



Newps wrote:

Only if you are going to move to a different aircraft soon. If not then
it's a bunch of BS.


One of the advantages of flying a Maule is that no CFI criticizes you for raising
the flaps on the runway.

George Patterson


Hmm, what's wrong with flaps up on the runway? That's the way I was
taught to land a Cessna 172, touch down, flaps up. I can see how it
might make for the possibility of retracting the gear instead of the
flaps if you have retractible gear and the levers are both located
near each other, but fixed gear? What could be the harm?

Thanks, Corky Scott

 




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