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Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
"Pete" wrote: True. But we may never know for sure if there was another. Agreed. I read a very plausible article some time ago which suggested Gagarin was third. Steven - Do you have a cite for the article, please? |
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Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
"Pete" wrote in message True. But we may never know for sure if there was another. Agreed. I read a very plausible article some time ago which suggested Gagarin was third. Steven - Do you have a cite for the article, please? |
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Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
"Pete" wrote in message True. But we may never know for sure if there was another. Agreed. I read a very plausible article some time ago which suggested Gagarin was third. Steven - Do you have a cite for the article, please? |
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Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
"Pete" wrote in message True. But we may never know for sure if there was another. Agreed. I read a very plausible article some time ago which suggested Gagarin was third. Steven - Do you have a cite for the article, please? |
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Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
"Pete" wrote in message True. But we may never know for sure if there was another. Agreed. I read a very plausible article some time ago which suggested Gagarin was third. Steven - Do you have a cite for the article, please? |
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"Stop SPAM" wrote (five times)...
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![]() "Stop SPAM" wrote in message ... Would you consider changing your nick, please...... |
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On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 21:25:53 GMT, "Casey Wilson"
wrote: "Stop SPAM" wrote in message ... Would you consider changing your nick, please...... Why? Are you Pro Spam? |
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![]() "Stop SPAM" wrote in message ... Do you have a cite for the article, please? No, I don't. It was a few years ago and I don't remember the source. As I recall, there was an Italian physician who was a space buff and monitored satellite transmissions. He claimed he heard a human heartbeat aboard. The story had it that the Russians had a problem bringing the craft down at the appointed time, and when they corrected the problem it was out of position for a landing in the USSR. Before it was again in a suitable position the cosmonaut died. This was supposedly the first man in space. The second flight was flown by the son of a famous Russian aero designer, I do not recall which. More problems in the return from orbit left him very severely injured. Then came Yuri Gagarin, his flight went according to plan and it was announced as the first human spaceflight afterward. I'm not saying it happened this way, of course, but it is plausible. After all, the Russians didn't announce their flights beforehand, and there's no reason to keep them secret if you intend to announce your failures anyway. |
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On Wed, 23 Jun 2004, Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
"Stop SPAM" wrote in message ... Do you have a cite for the article, please? No, I don't. It was a few years ago and I don't remember the source. The "Phantom Cosmonauts/Astronauts", so-called. Discussed, and largely explained/debunked, he http://www.astronautix.com/astrogrp/phanauts.htm The Judica-Cordiglia brothers (the Italians in question) have a website devoted to them he http://www.lostcosmonauts.com/ .... and are debunked fairly convincingly he http://www.svengrahn.pp.se/trackind/Torre/TorreB.html Interesting stuff, anyway, even if it is mostly nonsense. The Soviets *did* hide a lot of stuff away from public scrutiny in the early days. (NASA probably wished it could do the same thing, some days early in the space race!) Brian As I recall, there was an Italian physician who was a space buff and monitored satellite transmissions. He claimed he heard a human heartbeat aboard. The story had it that the Russians had a problem bringing the craft down at the appointed time, and when they corrected the problem it was out of position for a landing in the USSR. Before it was again in a suitable position the cosmonaut died. This was supposedly the first man in space. The second flight was flown by the son of a famous Russian aero designer, I do not recall which. More problems in the return from orbit left him very severely injured. Then came Yuri Gagarin, his flight went according to plan and it was announced as the first human spaceflight afterward. I'm not saying it happened this way, of course, but it is plausible. After all, the Russians didn't announce their flights beforehand, and there's no reason to keep them secret if you intend to announce your failures anyway. |
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