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On 12 Oct 2004 23:18:29 -0600, Blanche
wrote: The fact is, this book is outdated and contains some gross inaccuracies. Knowing full well this is going to open a bag of worms... citations and explanations, please. When I started taking lessons, a friend loaned me his copy of Stick and Rudder. It almost drove me crazy, those drawings of how the airport should look while you are in the pattern. It wasn't till long afterward that I realized that old Wolfgang wanted me to enter on the base leg. May not be an inaccuracy, but sure as heck outdated, and very misleading. I don't think you are doing a student pilot any favors by giving him this book. I suspect it's something for oldtimers to smile about ("Ah, the good old days!"). all the best -- Dan Ford email: (put Cubdriver in subject line) Warbird's Forum www.warbirdforum.com Piper Cub Forum www.pipercubforum.com Viva Bush! www.vivabush.org |
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![]() Flight of Passage, by Rinker Buck. One of the best books I have ever read, right up there with Young Men and Fire and A Moveable Feast. all the best -- Dan Ford email: (put Cubdriver in subject line) Warbird's Forum www.warbirdforum.com Piper Cub Forum www.pipercubforum.com Viva Bush! www.vivabush.org |
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![]() Flight of Passage, by Rinker Buck. One of the best books I have ever read, right up there with Young Men and Fire and A Moveable Feast. all the best -- Dan Ford email: (put Cubdriver in subject line) Warbird's Forum www.warbirdforum.com Piper Cub Forum www.pipercubforum.com Viva Bush! www.vivabush.org |
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CJC writes:
. His views were not nearly so radical as he seems to think they were, and too much of the text is taken up with promoting how great a thinker he is, as if he was writing a diet book or something. LOL! The old flyers have a lot to offer, and it's rather a comfort to know they struggled with the same fears and phenomena we do...but it's a good point that knowledge has improved and we'd better read the "classics" with the knowledge that there are also contemporary teachers with a great deal of valuable knowledge to share. |
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Jay Beckman wrote:
As a newly-minted PP-ASEL, I want to continue to absorb knowledge and do all that I can to fly as safely as possible. What books and or videos would you recommend that a new pilot put on his or her short list? A couple of years back over in rec.aviation.military discussion turned to the Tenerife crash and cockpit resource management. Here is what I wrote about a book that is on my bookshelf: An interesting source (with a provocative title) is David Beaty's book, "The Naked Pilot: The Human Factor in Aircraft Accidents" (ISBN 1 85310 482 5, Airlife). I think Beaty may have used the Tenerife crash as an example in his chapter on "The Clockwork Captain, or Deus in Machina". Many of the lessons in this book can be applied to other areas, such as my own (software development), and to life in general - and that certainly includes driving. I have it in mind to buy it for my brother for Christmas and to encourage him to ensure that my nephews both read it before they start driving. |
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("Cub Driver" wrote)
Flight of Passage, by Rinker Buck. One of the best books I have ever read, right up there with Young Men and Fire and A Moveable Feast. I used a bookstore gift card from Christmas to buy Flight of Passage this summer. I enjoyed the book. However ... It was written in 1994(?) by a 44 year old guy - looking back on a cross-country trip he took with his brother, when they were both teenagers, in the summer of 1966. So far so good. As I got into the book, it felt to me like telling his story was part of a therapy regiment that Rinker was on. He'd spend an hour on the (HMO approved) psychologist's couch, then go home and write for an hour. Don't get me wrong, I really liked the story - I just didn't like having to wade through endless "I was a brilliant 15 year stud" recollections. The characters in the book were endearing, even the not-so-nice ones, unfortunately, I didn't like Rinker talking about Rinker through Rinker. He was unlikable. I'm not 100% sure why? The part of the book that was the most interesting for me was how absolutely special it was, to a variety of aviation people who the boys meet on their journey, that these two kids were really doing it, flying across the country in a J-3 Cub. I enjoyed this aspect of the story very much. Solid recommendation for Flight of Passage. Montblack Waiting for the movie :-) |
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On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 18:25:11 -0500, "Montblack"
wrote: It was written in 1994(?) by a 44 year old guy - looking back on a cross-country trip he took with his brother, when they were both teenagers, in the summer of 1966. So far so good. One of the papers -- I think it was the New York Times -- did a piece on the book when it came out. The hook for the story was getting Rink together with the PA-11 he flew co-piloted that summer. It was a very pretty plane, well maintained, located I think in MA. You are quite right about the long look back. I drove across country the same year, and I crossed the continental divide on Route 10. No big deal in a VW bug, and it wouldn't have been a big deal in a PA-11 either. That trip over the Guadalupe Pass is much hyped in recollection, and wasn't necessary in the first place. all the best -- Dan Ford email: (put Cubdriver in subject line) Warbird's Forum www.warbirdforum.com Piper Cub Forum www.pipercubforum.com Viva Bush! www.vivabush.org |
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"C J Campbell" wrote in message news:
...I realize that criticizing Langewiesche is an attack on a basic religious belief, but the truth is that some progress in understanding aviation has been made in the more than sixty years since the book was written, even if, as is sometimes claimed, the basic principles of aerodynamics have not changed.... Yup, that's certainly true. When I read the book as a student pilot, I was aware of it's age and took much of it with a grain of salt. That being said, I enjoyed it and found it of some use. The style of explanation in that day is sometimes more straightforward and works better with me than some of the more modern textbook styles today. I was able to get a concept better by reading Jeppeson, getting puzzled, reading Stick & Rudder, getting the idea, and re-reading Jeppeson to get the modern corrections. Yeah, I read a lot. Works for me, your mileage may vary. I'm reading some aerodynamics stuff now and understand the wing better, but for many purposes the idea that "the wing flys because it pushes air down" is good enough. If you're going to build wings or such that's clearly too weak, but for knowing how to fly it works. Perhaps I'm just a young old fart? -Malcolm Teas |
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"Marty Ross" wrote in news:kPCad.576$SZ5.490
@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net: "Stick And Rudder", Wolfgang Langewiesche (http://www.pilotsbooks.com/stick_rudder.htm) IMHO, this book should be "required reading" for all pilots. Just the arrogance of this book turned me off. It spent a great deal of time describing what a great book it is. No thank you. I will decide that for myself after reading the book. Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- ** SPEED ** RETENTION ** COMPLETION ** ANONYMITY ** ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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In article 2ypad.33442$R43.1589@fed1read01, Jay Beckman
wrote: As a newly-minted PP-ASEL, I want to continue to absorb knowledge and do all that I can to fly as safely as possible. What books and or videos would you recommend that a new pilot put on his or her short list? Fate Is The Hunter, and The High And The Mighty, by Ernie Gann Flying South by Barbara Cushman Rowell |
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