Cessna buyers in So. Cal. beware !

From: Juan Jimenez
Date: 6/21/2004 10:01 AM Central Daylight Time
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"Richard Kaplan" wrote in
ws.com:


Why do you think this airplane is "super low priced"?

Why would it be priced that low if it were airworthy?

What does the price of a plane have to do with its airworthiness? When did
the FAA include price of the airplane in its definition of airworthiness?

Juan, have you ever sold or flown that BD-5?

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

B2431 wrote:

From: Juan Jimenez
Date: 6/21/2004 10:01 AM Central Daylight Time
Message-id:

"Richard Kaplan" wrote in
ws.com:


Why do you think this airplane is "super low priced"?

Why would it be priced that low if it were airworthy?

What does the price of a plane have to do with its airworthiness? When did
the FAA include price of the airplane in its definition of airworthiness?

Juan, have you ever sold or flown that BD-5?

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

Low blow, Dan!

From: Richard Lamb
Date: 6/21/2004 11:59 AM Central Daylight Time
Message-id:

B2431 wrote:

From: Juan Jimenez
Date: 6/21/2004 10:01 AM Central Daylight Time
Message-id:

"Richard Kaplan" wrote in
ws.com:


Why do you think this airplane is "super low priced"?

Why would it be priced that low if it were airworthy?

What does the price of a plane have to do with its airworthiness? When did
the FAA include price of the airplane in its definition of airworthiness?

Juan, have you ever sold or flown that BD-5?

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

Low blow, Dan!

Shamelessly done too

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

"Tom Sixkiller" wrote in
:

What does the price of a plane have to do with its airworthiness?

Maybe the fact that price is usually a measure of "suitability for a
purpose"?

Really? On what planet, Tom?

When did the FAA include price of the airplane in its definition of
airworthiness?

It doesn't, "economic reality" does.

Boy, you sure have an active imagination. Of course, this only applies to
the resale price of an airplane, doesn't it? It doesn't apply to the
acquisition price, because then, according to your rules, anything goes,
doesn't it? Capitalistic airworthiness at its best?

(Geez...you should have learned this before entering elementary school)

I missed Dumb Rationalizations 101. On purpose.

On Mon, 21 Jun 2004 19:57:37 +0000, Juan Jimenez wrote:

"Tom Sixkiller" wrote in
:

What does the price of a plane have to do with its airworthiness?

Maybe the fact that price is usually a measure of "suitability for a
purpose"?

Really? On what planet, Tom?


Ya, I had this same thought. Price rarely is a measure of suitability for
a purpose. I agree with ya. In fact, suitability, quality, price, and
popularity often have little to do with each other.

When did the FAA include price of the airplane in its definition of
airworthiness?

It doesn't, "economic reality" does.

Boy, you sure have an active imagination. Of course, this only applies to
the resale price of an airplane, doesn't it? It doesn't apply to the
acquisition price, because then, according to your rules, anything goes,
doesn't it? Capitalistic airworthiness at its best?

I know. It's kind of funny. Accordingly, if we run with his logic, there
are never deals to be had in aviation. In fact, we can ignore every
social issue which affects mankind such as money problems, loss of
interest, medical problems, or desire to rapidly acquire another
possession. Nope, paying absoluete top dollar is the only way to aquire
anything of worth. I wonder if he purchased anything other than new, and
paid above sticker to boot? If he did, he clearly got ripped off.

Just having some fun with the obvious, which was seemingly overlooked
in the grandparent message.


Cheers,

Greg

Juan Jimenez wrote in message .. .
"Richard Kaplan" wrote in
s.com:


Why do you think this airplane is "super low priced"?

Why would it be priced that low if it were airworthy?

What does the price of a plane have to do with its airworthiness? When did
the FAA include price of the airplane in its definition of airworthiness?

What FAR requires a plane to be Airworthy to sell? Sounds like the
owner was willing to sell a project plane cheaply. The fact that he
wasn't upfront about it is annoying, but sadly, the norm. When I was
looking at Champs 4 out of 5 were not technically airworthy according
to ADs. That doesn't make them illegal to sell, or a bad deal.

-Robert

(Robert M. Gary) wrote in
om:

Juan Jimenez wrote in message
.. .
"Richard Kaplan" wrote in
s.com:


Why do you think this airplane is "super low priced"?

Why would it be priced that low if it were airworthy?

What does the price of a plane have to do with its airworthiness?
When did the FAA include price of the airplane in its definition of
airworthiness?

What FAR requires a plane to be Airworthy to sell? Sounds like the
owner was willing to sell a project plane cheaply. The fact that he
wasn't upfront about it is annoying, but sadly, the norm. When I was
looking at Champs 4 out of 5 were not technically airworthy according
to ADs. That doesn't make them illegal to sell, or a bad deal.

-Robert

The original poster never implied the effort to sell the a/c was illegal.
Whether or not something is a bad deal is up to the seller and buyer to
decide. What he did warn people about was that the one seller he met was
particularly egregious in his attempts to misrepresent the aircraft.
Apparently there are a few people around here over whose heads this all
went...

Greg Copeland wrote in
news
On Mon, 21 Jun 2004 19:57:37 +0000, Juan Jimenez wrote:

"Tom Sixkiller" wrote in
:

What does the price of a plane have to do with its airworthiness?

Maybe the fact that price is usually a measure of "suitability for a
purpose"?

Really? On what planet, Tom?


Ya, I had this same thought. Price rarely is a measure of suitability
for a purpose. I agree with ya. In fact, suitability, quality,
price, and popularity often have little to do with each other.

When did the FAA include price of the airplane in its definition of
airworthiness?

It doesn't, "economic reality" does.

Boy, you sure have an active imagination. Of course, this only
applies to the resale price of an airplane, doesn't it? It doesn't
apply to the acquisition price, because then, according to your
rules, anything goes, doesn't it? Capitalistic airworthiness at its
best?

I know. It's kind of funny. Accordingly, if we run with his logic,
there are never deals to be had in aviation. In fact, we can ignore
every social issue which affects mankind such as money problems, loss
of interest, medical problems, or desire to rapidly acquire another
possession. Nope, paying absoluete top dollar is the only way to
aquire anything of worth. I wonder if he purchased anything other than
new, and paid above sticker to boot? If he did, he clearly got ripped
off.

Just having some fun with the obvious, which was seemingly overlooked
in the grandparent message.


Cheers,

Greg

No reply needed. Well put.

"Greg Copeland" wrote in message
news
On Mon, 21 Jun 2004 19:57:37 +0000, Juan Jimenez wrote:

"Tom Sixkiller" wrote in
:

What does the price of a plane have to do with its airworthiness?

Maybe the fact that price is usually a measure of "suitability for a
purpose"?

Really? On what planet, Tom?

This one. What planets version of "value" (which determines price) are YOU
using? Kalifornia's?

Ya, I had this same thought. Price rarely is a measure of suitability for
a purpose. I agree with ya. In fact, suitability, quality, price, and
popularity often have little to do with each other.

Really? On what planet?

"Juan Jimenez" wrote in message
...
Greg Copeland wrote in
news

Just having some fun with the obvious, which was seemingly overlooked
in the grandparent message.


Cheers,

Greg

No reply needed. Well put.

Well put bull ****.

No wonder you get taken.