Dream Panel

Dream panel -- a very expensive assembly of compromises.

Switches, fuses, and any ancillary that can grab your “eye attention� should not be visible or “colored� identified so they do not reflect. Conventional 57mm altimeter replaced with Air Avionics ADC which also effectively controls the Becker RT6201 remote transceiver. Conventional compasses are worthless and do not deserve a full time dedicated panel hole. Panel mount one for annuals and then take it out as soon as you are out of site. (Sorry Mr. FAA, I just took out my Airpath compass because the seals are bad and the fluid leaked out.)

Airspeed and Air Glide S (primary vario) over ClearNav II, Middle CNvS XC, Air AVIONICS ADT driven by PowerFLARM core (Airpath compass for annuals), third row motor controls, ILEC engine unit, LXNAV S10, Air AVIONICS ADC, TXPDR below ClearNav II (if ADS-B then Trig TT-22 and if not Garrecht VT-01 remote controlled by Air AVIONICS ADC. For contest days, Naviter Oudie 2 on canopy driven by LXNAV S10. Glass instrument fuses on “custom� power buss behind panel. No solar.

You will not be happy with factory Schleicher wiring – get Rex to wire it and then if you have a problem he knows your rig. Make sure it is wired to eliminate Mi starting problems such as some of the 32Mi’s have experienced.

Dream on.

This is the one time it's easy to put antennas in the fin and route properly sized coax to them (may be worthwhile engaging a microwave engineer).

Schleicher puts the Com antenna in the back of the fin. Think where the transponder and Flarm antennas can go - minimum 30 cm apart.

Air Avionics has announced their Air Traffic unit which can transmit Flarm on both antennas (very handy with carbon fiber fuselage - on the glareshield, there's a blind spot below; in the fin the tailplane makes another blind spot), but so far there's no documentation or word on North American licensing.

Access to the coax connectors might be nice.

On Thursday, July 19, 2018 at 2:52:47 PM UTC-4, wrote:
Dream panel -- a very expensive assembly of compromises.

Switches, fuses, and any ancillary that can grab your “eye attention� should not be visible or “colored� identified so they do not reflect. Conventional 57mm altimeter replaced with Air Avionics ADC which also effectively controls the Becker RT6201 remote transceiver. Conventional compasses are worthless and do not deserve a full time dedicated panel hole. Panel mount one for annuals and then take it out as soon as you are out of site. (Sorry Mr. FAA, I just took out my Airpath compass because the seals are bad and the fluid leaked out.)

Airspeed and Air Glide S (primary vario) over ClearNav II, Middle CNvS XC, Air AVIONICS ADT driven by PowerFLARM core (Airpath compass for annuals), third row motor controls, ILEC engine unit, LXNAV S10, Air AVIONICS ADC, TXPDR below ClearNav II (if ADS-B then Trig TT-22 and if not Garrecht VT-01 remote controlled by Air AVIONICS ADC. For contest days, Naviter Oudie 2 on canopy driven by LXNAV S10. Glass instrument fuses on “custom� power buss behind panel. No solar.

You will not be happy with factory Schleicher wiring – get Rex to wire it and then if you have a problem he knows your rig. Make sure it is wired to eliminate Mi starting problems such as some of the 32Mi’s have experienced.

Dream on.

Also 2 ESA-System type UN probe mounting adapters in vertical fin so you can have separate probes. Preferred is Prandtl tube PR providing redundant pitot/static systems to power electronic TE compensation.

I'm also considering what to put in my next glider panel. I'd be interested to hear what people see as the pros and cons of different moving map glide computers. Just the high end ones that can be installed in-panel (not Oudie, etc). I currently use an LXNav 9050, but there are many things that could be improved. How do the Air Avionics Glide computers and ClearNavII compare to LXNav?

Le mardi 17 juillet 2018 21:02:53 UTC-4, 2G a écritÂ*:
As you may already know, I am ordering a new ASH31Mi. I am in the process of coming up with the panel layout and instrument selection. I would love to here from other pilots what they consider to be their dream panel (cost is not an issue).
Tom

Hi
So the dream panel include a lot of air avionic product.

Looking at the last 3 sailplane GP participant equipement it include mostly of LX Nav,a few LX Navigation and a few of all the other including Air glide product in their panel.
I wonder why?
Gilles

On Friday, July 20, 2018 at 5:00:41 AM UTC-7, wrote:
Le mardi 17 juillet 2018 21:02:53 UTC-4, 2G a écritÂ*:
As you may already know, I am ordering a new ASH31Mi. I am in the process of coming up with the panel layout and instrument selection. I would love to here from other pilots what they consider to be their dream panel (cost is not an issue).
Tom

Hi
So the dream panel include a lot of air avionic product.

Looking at the last 3 sailplane GP participant equipement it include mostly of LX Nav,a few LX Navigation and a few of all the other including Air glide product in their panel.
I wonder why?
Gilles

Yes, it seems that the bulk of innovation is coming out of two companies!

I am looking for a digital ASI and found this one from, guess who, LX NAV:
http://www.aeroexpo.online/prod/lx-n...1396-3693.html

The only distributor listed for the US is Cumulus Soaring, but Paul does not carry this product. Does anyone have any experience with this ASI and knows where to buy it (Europe is ok)?

Tom

On Saturday, July 21, 2018 at 9:56:03 AM UTC-5, 2G wrote:
On Friday, July 20, 2018 at 5:00:41 AM UTC-7, wrote:
Le mardi 17 juillet 2018 21:02:53 UTC-4, 2G a écritÂ*:
As you may already know, I am ordering a new ASH31Mi. I am in the process of coming up with the panel layout and instrument selection. I would love to here from other pilots what they consider to be their dream panel (cost is not an issue).
Tom

Hi
So the dream panel include a lot of air avionic product.

Looking at the last 3 sailplane GP participant equipement it include mostly of LX Nav,a few LX Navigation and a few of all the other including Air glide product in their panel.
I wonder why?
Gilles

Yes, it seems that the bulk of innovation is coming out of two companies!

I am looking for a digital ASI and found this one from, guess who, LX NAV:
http://www.aeroexpo.online/prod/lx-n...1396-3693.html

The only distributor listed for the US is Cumulus Soaring, but Paul does not carry this product. Does anyone have any experience with this ASI and knows where to buy it (Europe is ok)?

Tom

Tom, you should seriously look at the Garmin G5 to replace a slew of instruments:
http://www.chiefaircraft.com/gmn-010...hoCo0MQAvD_BwE
Much cheaper than the others discussed and it includes an attitude indicator (plus ALT, ASI, Heading and vert. speed uncomp.). With a good backup battery, that thing would save you a lot of panel space.
Herb, J7

On Saturday, July 21, 2018 at 9:39:17 AM UTC-7, wrote:
On Saturday, July 21, 2018 at 9:56:03 AM UTC-5, 2G wrote:
On Friday, July 20, 2018 at 5:00:41 AM UTC-7, wrote:
Le mardi 17 juillet 2018 21:02:53 UTC-4, 2G a écritÂ*:
As you may already know, I am ordering a new ASH31Mi. I am in the process of coming up with the panel layout and instrument selection. I would love to here from other pilots what they consider to be their dream panel (cost is not an issue).
Tom

Hi
So the dream panel include a lot of air avionic product.

Looking at the last 3 sailplane GP participant equipement it include mostly of LX Nav,a few LX Navigation and a few of all the other including Air glide product in their panel.
I wonder why?
Gilles

Yes, it seems that the bulk of innovation is coming out of two companies!

I am looking for a digital ASI and found this one from, guess who, LX NAV:
http://www.aeroexpo.online/prod/lx-n...1396-3693.html

The only distributor listed for the US is Cumulus Soaring, but Paul does not carry this product. Does anyone have any experience with this ASI and knows where to buy it (Europe is ok)?

Tom

Tom, you should seriously look at the Garmin G5 to replace a slew of instruments:
http://www.chiefaircraft.com/gmn-010...hoCo0MQAvD_BwE
Much cheaper than the others discussed and it includes an attitude indicator (plus ALT, ASI, Heading and vert. speed uncomp.). With a good backup battery, that thing would save you a lot of panel space.
Herb, J7

Herb,

Good call; this is an approach I haven't considered. The G5, after much search, has a pretty decent power consumption (200mA).

Tom

I've got two G5s in my airplane, one as an ADI and the other as an HSI.Â*
Either can perform the functions of the other and the internal battery
is good for 4 hours, I believe.Â* Great instruments!Â* I'd have them in my
glider if I didn't already have a Dynon.

On 7/21/2018 10:39 AM, wrote:
On Saturday, July 21, 2018 at 9:56:03 AM UTC-5, 2G wrote:
On Friday, July 20, 2018 at 5:00:41 AM UTC-7, wrote:
Le mardi 17 juillet 2018 21:02:53 UTC-4, 2G a écritÂ*:
As you may already know, I am ordering a new ASH31Mi. I am in the process of coming up with the panel layout and instrument selection. I would love to here from other pilots what they consider to be their dream panel (cost is not an issue).
Tom
Hi
So the dream panel include a lot of air avionic product.

Looking at the last 3 sailplane GP participant equipement it include mostly of LX Nav,a few LX Navigation and a few of all the other including Air glide product in their panel.
I wonder why?
Gilles
Yes, it seems that the bulk of innovation is coming out of two companies!

I am looking for a digital ASI and found this one from, guess who, LX NAV:
http://www.aeroexpo.online/prod/lx-n...1396-3693.html

The only distributor listed for the US is Cumulus Soaring, but Paul does not carry this product. Does anyone have any experience with this ASI and knows where to buy it (Europe is ok)?

Tom
Tom, you should seriously look at the Garmin G5 to replace a slew of instruments:
http://www.chiefaircraft.com/gmn-010...hoCo0MQAvD_BwE
Much cheaper than the others discussed and it includes an attitude indicator (plus ALT, ASI, Heading and vert. speed uncomp.). With a good backup battery, that thing would save you a lot of panel space.
Herb, J7

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Dan, 5J

On Saturday, 21 July 2018 15:56:03 UTC+1, 2G wrote:
On Friday, July 20, 2018 at 5:00:41 AM UTC-7, wrote:
Le mardi 17 juillet 2018 21:02:53 UTC-4, 2G a écritÂ*:
As you may already know, I am ordering a new ASH31Mi. I am in the process of coming up with the panel layout and instrument selection. I would love to here from other pilots what they consider to be their dream panel (cost is not an issue).
Tom

Hi
So the dream panel include a lot of air avionic product.

Looking at the last 3 sailplane GP participant equipement it include mostly of LX Nav,a few LX Navigation and a few of all the other including Air glide product in their panel.
I wonder why?
Gilles

Yes, it seems that the bulk of innovation is coming out of two companies!

I am looking for a digital ASI and found this one from, guess who, LX NAV:
http://www.aeroexpo.online/prod/lx-n...1396-3693.html

The only distributor listed for the US is Cumulus Soaring, but Paul does not carry this product. Does anyone have any experience with this ASI and knows where to buy it (Europe is ok)?

Tom

Its by LX Navigation not LX Nav