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Uzytkownik "Bob Kuykendall" napisal w wiadomosci
om... However, one other thing I'll toss into this thread is that the materials costs of building sailplanes is closely linked (at least, more closely than I'd like) to the price of oil. I've been talking with my suppliers, and _their_ suppliers have been seeing monthly and sometimes weekly price increases on composite and plastic materials. What with oil prices doubling since Y2K, it makes a big difference. So what then? Back to the wood? At least in case of the 'sailplanes for the beginners'? Regards, -- Janusz Kesik Poland ------------------------------------- See Wroclaw (Breslau) in photography, The XIX Century, the Festung Breslau, and photos taken today. http://www.wroclaw.dolny.slask.pl |
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Earlier, "Janusz Kesik" wrote:
So what then? Back to the wood? At least in case of the 'sailplanes for the beginners'? No, probably nothing like that, at least not in the way you'd expect. Oil would probably have to get a lot more expensive before the many more man-hours required for conventional wood construction becomes more economically viable than composites. Bob K. |
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Actually, HAL has had a nice upward trend for the last
6 months...no surprise there I suppose ![]() At 00:48 07 November 2004, Gary Kemp wrote: What has happened to the U.S. Stock market since Bush's reelection?? Not mine Bubba. Shawn |
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(Lennie the Lurker) wrote in message . com...
(Mike Stringfellow) wrote in message . com... Economic models would suggest a strong incentive for sailplane manufacture in North America, but I wonder if the numbers of potential sales would justify this. Any thoughts? Designed, tested and developed in the US, then made in china with our current management practices. Net gain = new market = 0. The only things we make here are hamburgers. Why don't you drive your China-produced car into the lake! |
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"The U.S. has a current account deficit, a budget deficit and a
president who appears unconcerned about dollar weakness," said Shahab Jalinoos, senior currency strategist at ABN AMRO. "No one can see any reason to buy the dollar at the moment." The president cost me nearly $15,000 last year when I purchased my current glider with flip remarks about not caring and then retracting his statements about the dollar's strength. It has become so weak now, that gliders are priced beyond all reason... meaning even though new ones cost more, used gliders are losing value because demand is reduced (psychologically, it's tough to justify six figures for a piece of plastic). Since I don't quite earn 7 figures yet, my tax break in miniscule, and now GWB is spending three-day weekends at Camp David, effectively barring us from our local ridges on NW days. Four more years... sigh! (Mike Stringfellow) wrote in message . com... The US dollar is now valued close to 0.75 Euro, down from its peak of 1.25 a couple of years ago. Analysts say it may go even lower, with some projecting exchange rates of 0.7 (1.4 dollar to the Euro). This has pretty much put the kibosh on my goals of buying a new European sailplane. A model at, say, Euro 85,000 cost around $70,000 a couple of years ago, is now around $110,000 and may soon be at $120,000. Economic models would suggest a strong incentive for sailplane manufacture in North America, but I wonder if the numbers of potential sales would justify this. Any thoughts? |
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http://www.scaled.com/projects/globalflyer.html
Well if anyone out there in ras world is a buddy of Rutan...I suspect he might make some terrific sailplanes if he set his mind to it. For some reason I suspect the very limited market would not be of much interest to him ![]() Economic models would suggest a strong incentive for sailplane manufacture in North America, but I wonder if the numbers of potential sales would justify this. Any thoughts? |
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Stewart Kissel wrote:
http://www.scaled.com/projects/globalflyer.html Well if anyone out there in ras world is a buddy of Rutan...I suspect he might make some terrific sailplanes if he set his mind to it. For some reason I suspect the very limited market would not be of much interest to him ![]() It's not that - he just isn't a production company. How many round-the-world airplanes or Spaceship Ones do you think he expects to sell? I suspect he wouldn't be interested in it, even if you brought a pile of money to pay for a design, because it's not as interesting as the stuff he's already working on. -- Change "netto" to "net" to email me directly Eric Greenwell Washington State USA |
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Actually, Burt Rutan already designed and marketed a self launching
sailplane called the Solitaire, 20 years or so ago. http://www.rutanaircraft.com/htmlpages/orderform.html Photo, 2/3 down the page. I was quite excited about it at the time, but it did not turn out to be very successful -- too short span, too high wing loading, optimized for higher speeds, poor thermalling performance. It was quietly dropped from plans sales by RAF. -Bob Korves "Stewart Kissel" wrote in message ... http://www.scaled.com/projects/globalflyer.html Well if anyone out there in ras world is a buddy of Rutan...I suspect he might make some terrific sailplanes if he set his mind to it. For some reason I suspect the very limited market would not be of much interest to him ![]() Economic models would suggest a strong incentive for sailplane manufacture in North America, but I wonder if the numbers of potential sales would justify this. Any thoughts? |
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