Leaving Usnet Groups, Bye

personally, i've always had kind of a creepy feeling when someone posts
that they're not going to post anymore. why not just stop posting and
be done with it? too much "it's all about me" for my taste but that's
just me.

overall, i think nw has added a lot to these groups; pushed some
really valuable discussions and added to my understanding and
enjoyment. do i agree with him about everything? no, but then i don't
agree with myself about everything.

i know nw was enjoying throwing a cat over the fence by shaking the
"non-aerobatic" at the dogs. lotsa good stuff came out but some of it
was over the top. i thought "that airframe is now worth zero" was
especially good and of course "i'm gunna tell mama" won the prize.
somebody needs to hold that boy down and feed him some worms.

anyway, nw, why don't you just do what everybody else does; change
your name and come back in??

dan

houstondan wrote:

personally, i've always had kind of a creepy feeling when someone posts
that they're not going to post anymore. why not just stop posting and
be done with it? too much "it's all about me" for my taste but that's
just me.

Yes, I was thinking much the same,


i know nw was enjoying throwing a cat over the fence by shaking the
"non-aerobatic" at the dogs. lotsa good stuff came out but some of it
was over the top. i thought "that airframe is now worth zero" was
especially good and of course "i'm gunna tell mama" won the prize.
somebody needs to hold that boy down and feed him some worms.

The airframe comment was a little over the top, but performing
aerobatics in an airplane not designed for it certainly increases the
risk of causing irreparable airframe damage.

I think the person who turned him in to the FSDO, assuming it wasn't
just a bluff, did the most responsible thing of anyone here. It is very
important to police our ranks. This not only helps prevent accidents,
but it helps us all preserve our flight privileges and not have them
legislated away. Organizations that don't police themselves often find
someone else, usually a government bureacracy, more than willing to do
it for them. The latter is almost always a bad thing.

We aren't talking about turning someone in for making an honest mistake,
we're talking someone who knowingly and willingly violated the law and
then had the nerve to brag about it. This isn't the sort of person we
should desire to have in our ranks.


anyway, nw, why don't you just do what everybody else does; change
your name and come back in??

Not everyone else; just the cowards.

Matt

"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
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houstondan wrote:

We aren't talking about turning someone in for making an honest mistake,
we're talking someone who knowingly and willingly violated the law and
then had the nerve to brag about it. This isn't the sort of person we
should desire to have in our ranks.



One thing I don't get ... why are we blaming NW? Yeah he's a bit of a dork
for bragging about it, but didn't he do that roll with a CFI present?
Wasn't that CFI presumably encouraging if not directing that behavior?

If I were the FSDO, I would give NW a stern lecture about who to trust, then
send him on his way. Then I would suspend the CFI's flying and instructing
certs, and consider criminal charges against him. He's the one who violated
the trust of his student and the government that certified him to instruct.

"Ed H" wrote in message
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"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
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houstondan wrote:

We aren't talking about turning someone in for making an honest mistake,
we're talking someone who knowingly and willingly violated the law and
then had the nerve to brag about it. This isn't the sort of person we
should desire to have in our ranks.



One thing I don't get ... why are we blaming NW? Yeah he's a bit of a
dork for bragging about it, but didn't he do that roll with a CFI present?
Wasn't that CFI presumably encouraging if not directing that behavior?

If I were the FSDO, I would give NW a stern lecture about who to trust,
then send him on his way. Then I would suspend the CFI's flying and
instructing certs, and consider criminal charges against him. He's the
one who violated the trust of his student and the government that
certified him to instruct.

I've not followed NW's background, and never quite got whether or not he was
a student pilot flying with a CFI when this incident occurred. My
understanding is that he owns a 150, but the one used for the roll wasn't
his. I also understand that there was a CFI in the airplane.
If NW is certificated, it's bad enough, but if he is indeed a student, the
CFI should be grounded immediately. Had this instructor worked for me , he
would never set foot in one of my airplanes ever again.
Dudley Henriques
International Fighter Pilots Fellowship
Commercial Pilot; CFI; Retired
dhenriquestrashatearthlinktrashdotnet
(take out the trash :-)

Hi Dudley,

It's all your fault. I hadn't been on in a few days, brought up the
News Group and wondered why I was getting RAP when I should have been
getting RAS. Installed the damn news reader three times before I
figured out you shook the trees and all the nuts fell off... er ...
out...

I ain't never going fishing with you. You'd have the boat full before
I got the bait on the hook.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

Ed H wrote:
"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
...
houstondan wrote:

We aren't talking about turning someone in for making an honest
mistake,
we're talking someone who knowingly and willingly violated the law
and
then had the nerve to brag about it. This isn't the sort of person
we
should desire to have in our ranks.


hold on a second there ed....the way you edited that stuff made it look
like i said the stuff above....i did not!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1



dan

oops, sorry.

"houstondan" wrote in message
oups.com...

Ed H wrote:
"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
...
houstondan wrote:

We aren't talking about turning someone in for making an honest
mistake,
we're talking someone who knowingly and willingly violated the law
and
then had the nerve to brag about it. This isn't the sort of person
we
should desire to have in our ranks.


hold on a second there ed....the way you edited that stuff made it look
like i said the stuff above....i did not!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1



dan

"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
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houstondan wrote:

I think the person who turned him in to the FSDO, assuming it wasn't just
a bluff, did the most responsible thing of anyone here. It is very
important to police our ranks. This not only helps prevent accidents, but
it helps us all preserve our flight privileges and not have them
legislated away. Organizations that don't police themselves often find
someone else, usually a government bureacracy, more than willing to do it
for them. The latter is almost always a bad thing.


Dream on.

Reporting to the FSDO will do NOTHING. No way any inspector will EVER show
unless there is a death, at least.


Karl

I'll sure have to disagree with that one. I know they address situations
of unsafe or illegal operations. I've seen it. Maybe where you live they
don't care but that isn't the situation here.


"kage" wrote in message
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Dream on.

Reporting to the FSDO will do NOTHING. No way any inspector will EVER show
unless there is a death, at least.


Karl

"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
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houstondan wrote:

I think the person who turned him in to the FSDO,

I was just teasing .. honest .. I didn't turn him in.