Moving Map: North-Up vs. Track-Up

In 1998, John and Ashley Sims created a two-way map of England. It had a standard view for people travelling north and an upside-down view for people travelling south. When men heard about it, they tended to laugh, thinking it was a joke. Women said: "What a great idea!"

A British newspaper offered 100 maps free. It received requests from 15,000 women - and a handful of men. Yes, we're different all right.
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http://www.associateprograms.com/sea...etter032.shtml

Interesting. But driving is not the same as flying, inasmuch as
situational awareness is not critical, nor need it be three-dimensional.
There is no need to match up the ground with the map in the same way
as in flying.

But that's besides the point. The sex difference is interesting.

Jose
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According to the Peases', the sex difference is based on how men and women's
brains are configured and developed. They are very different because, in
pre-feminist 20th century evolutionary terms, men and women fulfilled
entirely different roles to ensure the survival of the species. Fascinating
stuff and, as I said, should be mandatory reading.

Ever wonder why, when you get home from work, your wife wants to talk your
ear off when all you want is a half hour by yourself? Men typically speak
about 10,000-15,000 words in a day, and a day at work usually achieves that;
women use around 80,000. If she's only used 50,000 by the time you get
home, guess who's going to get the other 30,000 before bedtime? Why?
Women's linguistic centers in the brain are way more developed than mens' -
they provided the social center of a tribe and the collective
peacekeeping/relationship building to ensure the tribe stayed together for
survival in numbers. Meanwhile men were out hunting and keeping quiet so
they didn't spook the game, only speaking to communicate important
information. Men use language to communicate information, women use it to
build and sustain relationships.

If you've ever had an argument with your wife in the car about reading the
map, you ought to read the book. After you do, guarantee you'll never ask
your wife to read the map again (standard exception disclaimer implied).

Anyway, a fascinating and very funny look at how men and women are
different. Worth a read.

Shawn

"Jose" wrote in message
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In 1998, John and Ashley Sims created a two-way map of England. It had a
standard view for people travelling north and an upside-down view for
people travelling south. When men heard about it, they tended to laugh,
thinking it was a joke. Women said: "What a great idea!"

A British newspaper offered 100 maps free. It received requests from
15,000 women - and a handful of men. Yes, we're different all right.
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found he

http://www.associateprograms.com/sea...etter032.shtml

Interesting. But driving is not the same as flying, inasmuch as
situational awareness is not critical, nor need it be three-dimensional.
There is no need to match up the ground with the map in the same way as in
flying.

But that's besides the point. The sex difference is interesting.

Jose
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Friedrich,

I hadn't thought about it until you mentioned it but I can now see that
north-up for big picture and track-up for close navigation is very useful
and pretty much what I end up doing. Good point.

Shawn
"Friedrich Ostertag" wrote in message
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Peter R. wrote:

ShawnD2112 wrote:


Male preference is for north-up while female preference is for track-up,
generally (all who are going to add how they are an exception can save
the typing - this is a gross generalization).


Gross generalization or not, where did you get this theory? I suppose
you
don't have an Internet reference to educate those of us equipped with an
apparent female preference, eh?


from the book mentioned:

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In 1998, John and Ashley Sims created a two-way map of England. It had a
standard view for people travelling north and an upside-down view for
people travelling south. When men heard about it, they tended to laugh,
thinking it was a joke. Women said: "What a great idea!"

A British newspaper offered 100 maps free. It received requests from
15,000 women - and a handful of men. Yes, we're different all right.
*****************

found he

http://www.associateprograms.com/sea...etter032.shtml

I will not be held responsible for the scientific value and correctness of
the statement :-)

Personally, I use north-up on my car navigation most of the time (I'm not
a pilot). But when approaching junctions, the system switches to track-up
(and zooms in) automatically, and I find that very useful.

To me it seems that for the "big picture" north-up is more helpful, while
for locating yourself in the close surroundings, track-up might even make
it easier for men :-)

regards,
Friedrich

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ShawnD2112 wrote:
This argument is almost as insolvable as the "Newton or Bernoulli" or "high
vs low wing" ones. This one basically comes down to how much testosterone
you got in the womb. Male preference is for north-up while female
preference is for track-up, generally (all who are going to add how they are
an exception can save the typing -

Oddly enough, I had everything set in Track up in the Navion and Margy
made me switch the MX20 to Norht Up.

Kai Glaesner wrote:

Reason was he wanted
the screen helping him to build a "mental-picture" about what's ahead and
around.

Track up.

I have both NEXRAD (actually WSI's NOWRAD) and traffic displayed on an
MX20. Combine these two with projected GPS course line and predicted
actual track while flying an IFR approach and IME track up provides a much
more intuitive situational picture.

I do not have to perform mental gymnastics of flipping the picture in my
head when scanning the MX20 during the approach.

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"Peter R." wrote in message
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Kai Glaesner wrote:

Reason was he wanted
the screen helping him to build a "mental-picture" about what's ahead
and
around.

Track up.

I have both NEXRAD (actually WSI's NOWRAD) and traffic displayed on an
MX20. Combine these two with projected GPS course line and predicted
actual track while flying an IFR approach and IME track up provides a much
more intuitive situational picture.

Track up....Sandel EHSI.

In article ,
"Kai Glaesner" wrote:

Hello,

ran into a discussion with a pilot-friend-of-mine on sunday about how to set
up our GNS430 on a short IFR Trip.

I prefer a North-Up mode, because it makes it easier for me to corelate
what's on the screen with the paper-charts I have on my kneeboard.

He wanted it to be in either Track-Up or (me complaining about a
too-frequent need for redraw) Desired-Track-Up mode. Reason was he wanted
the screen helping him to build a "mental-picture" about what's ahead and
around.

No consens was found so I would like to hear from you: are your a "North-Up"
or a "Track-Up" sort of pilot (explanation why you are would help)?

USAF Navigators that I know and work with (former B-52, former KC-135, current
E-8C navs) use North-up. They tend to just fly waypoint to waypoint.

The two F-111 WSOs I worked with use Track-up. They spend a lot of time
making sure they don't hit the ground and want to have a better mental
picture of the ground features along the track.

IOW - high flyers use North-up and the low-level guys use Track-up.

(this has been discussed in rec.aviation in the past - but it's been a few
years).

--
Bob Noel
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IOW - high flyers use North-up and the low-level guys use Track-up.

Interesting. I like track up, and I also like to fly real low.

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In article ,
Jose wrote:

IOW - high flyers use North-up and the low-level guys use Track-up.

Interesting. I like track up, and I also like to fly real low.

low and fast? ;-)

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low and fast? ;-)

As fast as a Dakota will take me.

Jose
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