Farewell, Tomcat

I'm done. Thanks for reading.

Fascinating stuff.

The scary part is that you actually *know* all this film history!

:-)
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Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

("Jay Honeck" wrote)
Fascinating stuff.

The scary part is that you actually *know* all this film history!


I know where to stumble over the info. :-)


Montblack

Bob,

From: Bob Noel
Ok. So WHY haven't they been used in earnest?

probably because the ROE haven't allow for it or one wasn't needed, yet.

Uh, that's pretty much what I said, isn't it?

"likely situations" aren't the only consideration in determining threats
and military weapon systems capabilities to meet those threats.

No? Then why are they gone from the inventory?


In any case, the threat assessement(s) used as the basis for the
long-range air-to-air missile requirements are almost certainly classified
and not something that can be discussed in a public forum.

You gotta be kidding. "If only I could tell you what I really know"? I know
many here really liked that kind of approach to the WMDs in Iraq, but please
look where we have come since then.

sfb has it right: The scenario which made the Phoenix nice to have is gone.

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

Say what you want about the movie, but the Tomcat in "Top Gun" did more for
naval aviation than any other single thing.

That's a pretty extreme statement, Jay. What do you mean by "more"?
And since you didn't include "IMHO," what evidence can you offer?

Some folks, perhaps older than you, might say the Battle of Midway
(the battle, in 1942, not the movie) did more. Or perhaps even the
movie, error-ridden as it was. Or the movie "The Fighting Lady,"
which you may never have seen or even heard of. It was made of actual
combat footage. Or the Blue Angels. Or Al Williams.

There was naval aviation, keep in mind, long, long, long, before that
silly Top Gun movie. Heck, some historians might say Glenn Curtiss did
more.

vince norris




The navy got their money's worth, times ten, from the F-14.

"vincent p. norris" wrote:

That's a pretty extreme statement, Jay. What do you mean by "more"?
And since you didn't include "IMHO," what evidence can you offer?

Anecdotal, no doubt, but from 1988 through 1990 I tried to get into the Air
Force, the Navy, and a local Air National Guard base as a pilot. In every
case I was told by the recruiters that competition was never more fierce
than this period, thanks to "that movie, 'Top Gun.'"

Needless to say, I was not accepted. I didn't have the political
connections needed for Officer Candidate School.

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If you really think it takes political pull to get into Officer
Candidate School, they probably dumped your butt on attitude alone.

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"vincent p. norris" wrote:

That's a pretty extreme statement, Jay. What do you mean by "more"?
And since you didn't include "IMHO," what evidence can you offer?

Anecdotal, no doubt, but from 1988 through 1990 I tried to get into
the Air
Force, the Navy, and a local Air National Guard base as a pilot. In
every
case I was told by the recruiters that competition was never more
fierce
than this period, thanks to "that movie, 'Top Gun.'"

Needless to say, I was not accepted. I didn't have the political
connections needed for Officer Candidate School.

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sfb wrote:

If you really think it takes political pull to get into Officer
Candidate School, they probably dumped your butt on attitude alone.

That was what I was told by one of the recruiters. I had absolutely no
attitude back then.

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"vincent p. norris" wrote:

There was naval aviation, keep in mind, long, long, long, before that
silly Top Gun movie.

Glad to see I'm not the only pilot who thinks Top Gun is silly.

--
Dan
C172RG at BFM

Dan Luke wrote:


Glad to see I'm not the only pilot who thinks Top Gun is silly.


Not the only one by a long shot. Silly from start to finish although it's
always nice to see the iron flying.


--
Saville

Replicas of 15th-19th century nautical navigational instruments:

http://home.comcast.net/~saville/backstaffhome.html

Restoration of my 82 year old Herreshoff S-Boat sailboat:

http://home.comcast.net/~saville/SBOATrestore.htm

Steambending FAQ with photos:

http://home.comcast.net/~saville/Steambend.htm

There was naval aviation, keep in mind, long, long, long, before that
silly Top Gun movie.

Glad to see I'm not the only pilot who thinks Top Gun is silly.

It was aimed squarely at the angst-consumed teen market -- which it hit
squarely.

The movie has its flaws, but it still has the best (and most) modern
flying sequences I've ever seen in a movie.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"