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Michelle P wrote: I am not how I would have handled this say 1500 or so hours ago. Experience has built my confidence. I am a lot more comfortable on the flight deck and abnormal things do not upset me as much as they used too. Michelle Longworth wrote: Michelle, Well done. I wish that I could be as calm and competent as you were in handling emergency situations. Glad to hear of the good outcome. Hai Longworth Michelle, You dine good! You followed the aviator's three primary rules: 1. Aviate (Fly the damn airplane!) 2. Navigate. 3. Communicate. #2 and #3 are no good if you aren't flying the airplane. #3 doesn't do a lot of good if you don't know where you are. |
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Fly or die.... That is the way I look at it. It is hard to get lost when you have to know where you are at all times. Washington Dc ADIZ/FRZ airspace is always changing. It reinforced my belief that you always need to know where the closest airport is and which direction. This was easy since we had just passed it and we were still talking to the tower controller. Michelle Orval Fairbairn wrote: You dine good! You followed the aviator's three primary rules: 1. Aviate (Fly the damn airplane!) 2. Navigate. 3. Communicate. #2 and #3 are no good if you aren't flying the airplane. #3 doesn't do a lot of good if you don't know where you are. |
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I am not how I would have handled this say 1500 or so hours ago. Experience
has built my confidence. I am a lot more comfortable on the flight deck and abnormal things do not upset me as much as they used too. I know I'm late to the show here, but great job, Michelle! A rough engine is a scary thing. It's only happened once to me, and I still had five (of six) cylinders pulling strong, but it sure seemed to take forever to get on the ground. At the same time, I had to keep reminding myself not to *rush* things, cuz that's when we make mistakes. Glad it worked out well. -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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You never know how you will act in an emergency. In 1973 I lost an
engine and came to a successful landing, except it was off airport. ------------- Regards, Ross C-172F 180HP KSWI Longworth wrote: Michelle, Well done. I wish that I could be as calm and competent as you were in handling emergency situations. Glad to hear of the good outcome. Hai Longworth |
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Had the engine not continued enough power to keep us airborne, we would
have made the evening news. I talked to my observer when we went out and flew the afternoon run. We were both looking at 95S at Lorton, Va as a quite likely landing site. The Fairfax County parkway was option as well. The old Fort Belvior proving grounds was an option as well. It had grown up significantly in the last few years. The airplane would not have been flyable if we had landed there. I would much rather hit trees rolling out than Cars. Trees are predicable. They do not move un-expectedly and I can try to point the fuselage between two of them and take the hit in the wings. Michelle Ross Richardson wrote: You never know how you will act in an emergency. In 1973 I lost an engine and came to a successful landing, except it was off airport. ------------- Regards, Ross C-172F 180HP KSWI Longworth wrote: Michelle, Well done. I wish that I could be as calm and competent as you were in handling emergency situations. Glad to hear of the good outcome. Hai Longworth |
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Michelle P wrote:
rolling out than Cars. Trees are predicable. They do not move un-expectedly and I can try to point the fuselage between two of them and take the hit in the wings. I did that once (though it was kinda unplanned); I would not recommend it (might be ok if already on the ground and slowing down, not when airborne) --Sylvain |
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Michelle -
Thanks for the write up. Great job. I'm usually shaken up when I make a normal landing (just kidding). I can't imagine what I'd be like during something like this. BTW, did they clear you for runway 05 or just runway 5. (or whatever it was)? Just kidding. Gerald Michelle P wrote: I used the E-word today. At 08:30 EDT this morning over the Springfield Mixing bowl just south of Washington DC, I declared and emergency. We had just finished our Potomac River crossing south of National airport and headed south to Woodbridge and back to Springfield, VA. Northbound I was just turning the corner to pick up the beltway and head for Tyson's Corners and the engine instantly started running rough, very rough. I thought we were going to loose it all together at 1000 feet AGL over a densely populated area. I immediately turned south again towards the last airport we had passed and called the tower. "Davison tower, Fetter Three is coming in". Fetter Three what is the nature of your trouble? "Engine running rough", How many souls (I hate that question but the need to know to know how many Ambulances to roll), "2." How much fuel? "40 gallons". Are you declaring and emergency? "Yes" ,Would you like Fire rescue? "Yes". I have pushed the button. I tried the Carb heat no results. Mixture full in, and I used our excess airspeed to climb. This added about 200 feet to our altitude. Oil pressure was reading ok as was oil Temp. I tried different power settings no luck. Here we were at 70 KIAS "full" power and holding altitude. I called on the Company air to air to report I was going down. Our other Fixed wing immediately turned towards our position. I was not sure how long this would last so both my observer and I were looking for a place to land short of the field. I am usually looking for places to land as we are cruising around the beltway. Never hurts. Interstate 95S was lightly loaded and was a real possibility. We also had a couple of "large" fields on our way. The engine held and we were cleared to land, wind calm. As we rolled out we we met by the entire fire crew. Since the event was sudden I had no Idea how bad the damage was and weather we would have a fire upon landing. It turns out we were not leaking any oil or fuel. We pushed the airplane off the runway, they have no tow bars for Small GA airplanes. It was parked with the other fixed wing aircraft on the field. THe airfield manager came out and greeted us. Offered us the use of the DV (Distinguished Visitors) lounge. I called my boss and Maintenance. They were on their way. Our other plane landed about 10 minutes behind me. While I was Cleaning out the plane, My observer climbed in our other plane and went back to home base. While I was waiting for my Boss and the Mechanic to arrived I sat in the DV lounge watching Satellite TV and filling out the mound of paper work from an un-authorized landing. Being made Authorized. I stayed with the plane in hopes we could fix it and fly it out today. The plane turned out to be broken harder than I thought. I originally thought the Mags (Dual Drive) had slipped a gear since the entire engine was running badly. It became very obvious when we removed the cowling that we had a problem with the #3 cylinder. The intake push rod was bent. This seemed strange until we removed the rocker cover. The stud for the exhaust valve had come loose in the head and the rocker was cocked to one side. THe push rod was not even contacting the rocker arm. This trapped the high pressure combustion results in the cylinder. When the intake valve tried to open it couldn't. Too much pressure. The push rod bent. Not only did we have a dead cylinder, we had the rest of the engine pushing against a full Combustion charge that could not escape. The mechanic and I removed the offending cylinder and return to home base. I and my morning observer went out and flew the afternoon Survey run. Everything went smoothly and it usually does. The airplane looks like it will be there until Monday when some of the parts under the cowling were broken by the shaking. Michelle (Two engine failures in 15 years and counting) |
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Gerald,
I was shaking after I got out of the plane. Once the adrenaline stopped running. I seriously felt like a nap. They have a very comfortable lounge. They cleared me to land. I do not think any mentioned a runway number. If they did, I did not hear it. I was landing on the closest runway. I asked about getting a copy of the tower recording. I am going to contact the manager on monday to see if that is possible. Michelle Gerald Sylvester wrote: Michelle - Thanks for the write up. Great job. I'm usually shaken up when I make a normal landing (just kidding). I can't imagine what I'd be like during something like this. BTW, did they clear you for runway 05 or just runway 5. (or whatever it was)? Just kidding. Gerald Michelle P wrote: |
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Glad to hear everything worked out OK. What year/type AC?
"Michelle P" wrote in message nk.net... I used the E-word today. At 08:30 EDT this morning over the Springfield Mixing bowl just south of Washington DC, I declared and emergency. We had just finished our Potomac River crossing south of National airport and headed south to Woodbridge and back to Springfield, VA. Northbound I was just turning the corner to pick up the beltway and head for Tyson's Corners and the engine instantly started running rough, very rough. I thought we were going to loose it all together at 1000 feet AGL over a densely populated area. I immediately turned south again towards the last airport we had passed and called the tower. "Davison tower, Fetter Three is coming in". Fetter Three what is the nature of your trouble? "Engine running rough", How many souls (I hate that question but the need to know to know how many Ambulances to roll), "2." How much fuel? "40 gallons". Are you declaring and emergency? "Yes" ,Would you like Fire rescue? "Yes". I have pushed the button. I tried the Carb heat no results. Mixture full in, and I used our excess airspeed to climb. This added about 200 feet to our altitude. Oil pressure was reading ok as was oil Temp. I tried different power settings no luck. Here we were at 70 KIAS "full" power and holding altitude. I called on the Company air to air to report I was going down. Our other Fixed wing immediately turned towards our position. I was not sure how long this would last so both my observer and I were looking for a place to land short of the field. I am usually looking for places to land as we are cruising around the beltway. Never hurts. Interstate 95S was lightly loaded and was a real possibility. We also had a couple of "large" fields on our way. The engine held and we were cleared to land, wind calm. As we rolled out we we met by the entire fire crew. Since the event was sudden I had no Idea how bad the damage was and weather we would have a fire upon landing. It turns out we were not leaking any oil or fuel. We pushed the airplane off the runway, they have no tow bars for Small GA airplanes. It was parked with the other fixed wing aircraft on the field. THe airfield manager came out and greeted us. Offered us the use of the DV (Distinguished Visitors) lounge. I called my boss and Maintenance. They were on their way. Our other plane landed about 10 minutes behind me. While I was Cleaning out the plane, My observer climbed in our other plane and went back to home base. While I was waiting for my Boss and the Mechanic to arrived I sat in the DV lounge watching Satellite TV and filling out the mound of paper work from an un-authorized landing. Being made Authorized. I stayed with the plane in hopes we could fix it and fly it out today. The plane turned out to be broken harder than I thought. I originally thought the Mags (Dual Drive) had slipped a gear since the entire engine was running badly. It became very obvious when we removed the cowling that we had a problem with the #3 cylinder. The intake push rod was bent. This seemed strange until we removed the rocker cover. The stud for the exhaust valve had come loose in the head and the rocker was cocked to one side. THe push rod was not even contacting the rocker arm. This trapped the high pressure combustion results in the cylinder. When the intake valve tried to open it couldn't. Too much pressure. The push rod bent. Not only did we have a dead cylinder, we had the rest of the engine pushing against a full Combustion charge that could not escape. The mechanic and I removed the offending cylinder and return to home base. I and my morning observer went out and flew the afternoon Survey run. Everything went smoothly and it usually does. The airplane looks like it will be there until Monday when some of the parts under the cowling were broken by the shaking. Michelle (Two engine failures in 15 years and counting) |
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1970s C172N
Mike wrote: Glad to hear everything worked out OK. What year/type AC? |
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