Questions pondered at 6500 feet

I would hope the windsock is on the side or corner!

Which corner of the circle Nathan? :^)

Bryan "The Monk" Chaisone

"Nathan Young" wrote in message
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I would hope the windsock is on the side or corner!


A circle with corners?

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message

Seems like a giant pain for the flight crew, to have to keep all the
various approach plates, etc., at hand.

My bag weighed 42 lbs.

On 2006-01-16, Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
Where's the pain? The approach in use will be on the ATIS, crews generally
have that information before they ever talk to approach control. And it is
a crew, it ain't one guy thumbing through a Jepp binder while trying to
hand-fly the airplane.

I also bet most of the crew know their regular approaches well, and
probably only pull out the plate to satisfy the airline's procedure.

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Jay Honeck wrote:

2. We often hear commercial airliners "cleared for the visual approach" into
thus-and-such an airport. However, we *also* often hear commercial
airliners "cleared for the ILS Rwy 14 approach" (for example) -- even though
conditions in the area are perfectly CAVU.

Jay, many times when flying back to my home airport I will request the
visual and still be vectored for the ILS and told to intercept the
localizer.

I had always assumed that this was done by the controller for sequencing
into the airport.

Also, in my experience when flying into Teterboro, all aircraft are given
a VOR-A approach (circling VOR approach) in visual conditions by the
approach facility, but after getting closer and calling the airport in
sight, are then cleared for a visual approach. Again, my understanding is
that this is done to facilitate arrival sequencing.

--
Peter

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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Here in Jackson Hole Wy I thought the same thing. We have several
majors that fly into here and on those 100 miles+ visibility days they
could fly a visual. So I asked some captains the same question. There
answer was all the same ... Their airlines require them not to pick us
a visual and stay in the "system" for safety reasons. Seems kinda silly
since we have a very competent tower here.


What "system" is it that they leave by selecting a visual approach but
remain in if they select a SIAP?


They probably do it for liability reasons so they can't be sued in an
accident for deviating from an FAA approved approach, lawyer BS, blah, blah.

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DW

You're confusing a visual approach with VFR. The airlines do fly visual
approaches into JAC, they just don't fly VFR.



wrote:

Here in Jackson Hole Wy I thought the same thing. We have several
majors that fly into here and on those 100 miles+ visibility days they
could fly a visual. So I asked some captains the same question. There
answer was all the same ... Their airlines require them not to pick us
a visual and stay in the "system" for safety reasons. Seems kinda silly
since we have a very competent tower here.

"Darkwing" theducksmail"AT"yahoo.com wrote in message
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They probably do it for liability reasons so they can't be sued in an
accident for deviating from an FAA approved approach, lawyer BS, blah,
blah.


That would seem to favor the visual approach.

Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
"Stubby" wrote in message
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I believe Lakehurst, NJ still has the circular field where the Hindenburg
disaster happened. I used to see it out the right side of scheduled
airliners on the way from DCA to BOS just before going over NYC.

The question I have about this installation is what are the converging
sets of lines around it. IIRC there are 3 sets of 4 lines pointing into
the center of the circle.



Are you referring to the large circular area to the west of the current
runways? I don't believe that's where the Hindenburg disaster happened.
That part of the installation was constructed well after the Hindenburg
disaster. The big dirigible hangar, the blimp mooring circles, and the old
runways were all located further east.


Maybe. It has been a few years since I last saw it. If it's not an
airship landing field, what is the large circular area?

Yep. A boxing ring.

Jim




"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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A circle with corners?