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Old March 15th 06, 03:17 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On 2006-03-15, Steve Foley wrote:
Therefore, I submit there are eight different 'kinds' of airports:

Towered, paved, with fuel.
Towered, paved, without fuel.
Towered, unpaved, with fuel.
Towered, unpaved, without fuel.
Non-towered, paved, with fuel.
Non-towered, paved, without fuel.
Non-towered, unpaved, with fuel.
Non-towered, unpaved, without fuel.

Unless you consider lighted vs unlighted, which would make it 16 kinds.

Or maybe open vs closed - making it 32.


On a point of pedantry - making it 18. A closed airport will neither be
lit nor towered nor fuel available by definition :-)

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Old March 15th 06, 03:33 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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OK, but if we go by the markings on the sectional, it's only 17. There
appears to be no distinction for paved vs unpaved closed airports.

I suppose we could add private to the list. Those also have no indication of
pavement, lighting, for fuel, or tower, so I guess we're back to 18.

Oh wait ... we forgot heliports.......

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On 2006-03-15, Steve Foley wrote:
Therefore, I submit there are eight different 'kinds' of airports:

Towered, paved, with fuel.
Towered, paved, without fuel.
Towered, unpaved, with fuel.
Towered, unpaved, without fuel.
Non-towered, paved, with fuel.
Non-towered, paved, without fuel.
Non-towered, unpaved, with fuel.
Non-towered, unpaved, without fuel.

Unless you consider lighted vs unlighted, which would make it 16 kinds.

Or maybe open vs closed - making it 32.


On a point of pedantry - making it 18. A closed airport will neither be
lit nor towered nor fuel available by definition :-)

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Old March 15th 06, 04:01 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Dylan Smith" wrote in message
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On a point of pedantry - making it 18. A closed airport will neither be
lit nor towered nor fuel available by definition :-)


It's not unusual for northern airports to be closed during and after a heavy
snowfall. Towers remain staffed, lights remain on, and FBOs remain eager to
sell fuel.


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Old March 15th 06, 08:07 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Steve Foley wrote:
I disagree. If you look at a sectional, you will see many different symbols
representing the various kinds of airports.

The different symbols that come to mind a

Color coded - blue vs magenta.

A solid circle vs an empty circle, indicating paved vs unpaved

With 'nubs' vs without 'nubs', indicating fuel available vs fuel not
available.

Therefore, I submit there are eight different 'kinds' of airports:

Towered, paved, with fuel.
Towered, paved, without fuel.
Towered, unpaved, with fuel.
Towered, unpaved, without fuel.
Non-towered, paved, with fuel.
Non-towered, paved, without fuel.
Non-towered, unpaved, with fuel.
Non-towered, unpaved, without fuel.

Unless you consider lighted vs unlighted, which would make it 16 kinds.

Or maybe open vs closed - making it 32.



Private vs public would make it 64.

Airports with runways longer than 8069ft would make it 128 different
types.

If you consider heliports, gliderports, balloonports, seaplane base
etc.. now you have something like 4096 different types of airports.

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Old March 15th 06, 08:14 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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If you consider heliports, gliderports, balloonports, seaplane base
etc.. now you have something like 4096 different types of airports.


I'll betcha there are more types of airports than there are airports.

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Old March 15th 06, 08:34 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Jose wrote:
If you consider heliports, gliderports, balloonports, seaplane base
etc.. now you have something like 4096 different types of airports.


I'll betcha there are more types of airports than there are airports.

Jose
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I am sure you are right because I can't imagine a paved seaplane base.

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Old March 15th 06, 08:54 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Alton Bay in NH. They plow the lake in the winter and land there. I suppose
one could pave it.


"Andrew Sarangan" wrote in message
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Jose wrote:
If you consider heliports, gliderports, balloonports, seaplane base
etc.. now you have something like 4096 different types of airports.


I'll betcha there are more types of airports than there are airports.

Jose
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I am sure you are right because I can't imagine a paved seaplane base.



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Old March 15th 06, 09:45 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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In article .com,
Andrew Sarangan wrote:

Jose wrote:
If you consider heliports, gliderports, balloonports, seaplane base
etc.. now you have something like 4096 different types of airports.


I'll betcha there are more types of airports than there are airports.

Jose
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I am sure you are right because I can't imagine a paved seaplane base.


There are airports with paved runways that also have water landing
areas. X47, for example.
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Old March 15th 06, 04:27 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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wrote in message
oups.com...

Lets get to the bottom of this.
I constantly hear people refer to Airports as being class B,C or D
Airports. Any of you who have thorough knowledge and understanding of
Airports will know that there are only two kinds of Airports in all of
our National Airspace System (NAS). There is Towered and Non-Towered
Airports. We have Class A,B,C,D,E and G Airspace. The Airspace overlays
the Airports. Now show me where in the Aeronautical Information Manual
(AIM) or an FAA Approved government publication that mentions a class
B,C,D Airport. You will not find it...


"Immediately after landing, and before beginning the critique, Linda asks
her student Brian to grade his performance for the day. Being asked to grade
himself is a new experience but he goes along with it. The flight scenario
had been a two-leg IFR scenario to a busy class B airport about 60 miles to
the east."

http://www.faa.gov/education_researc...developers.pdf


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Old March 15th 06, 05:08 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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That's not an "official" FAA publication. It's an example of a guide written
by a third party. Existence on the FAA's web servers is not a testament to
it being "official."

Marco


"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
link.net...

wrote in message
oups.com...

Lets get to the bottom of this.
I constantly hear people refer to Airports as being class B,C or D
Airports. Any of you who have thorough knowledge and understanding of
Airports will know that there are only two kinds of Airports in all of
our National Airspace System (NAS). There is Towered and Non-Towered
Airports. We have Class A,B,C,D,E and G Airspace. The Airspace overlays
the Airports. Now show me where in the Aeronautical Information Manual
(AIM) or an FAA Approved government publication that mentions a class
B,C,D Airport. You will not find it...


"Immediately after landing, and before beginning the critique, Linda asks
her student Brian to grade his performance for the day. Being asked to

grade
himself is a new experience but he goes along with it. The flight scenario
had been a two-leg IFR scenario to a busy class B airport about 60 miles

to
the east."


http://www.faa.gov/education_researc...developers.pdf





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