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"Montblack" wrote in message
... ("Peter Duniho" wrote) [snips] INS is screwed up, as is much of our government. No doubt about that. I have plenty of personal experience with the INS to confirm your assertion. I'm not clear on how that is relevant to the question of who should be permitted to immigrate to the US, or what to do with those who decide to do so illegally. Stop them. Turn them back. Return them. That's your answer to the question. It doesn't explain how you arrived at that answer, nor does it explain how the abilities or lack thereof within the INS are relevant. Three points: 1. "INS is screwed up, as is much of our government. No doubt about that." Total 2003 estimated numbers of "illegals" is a GOVERNMENT driven number. I chose to believe my own lying eyes. The INS isn't the one doing the estimation. You have a better number, with published methodology for how it was determined? I'm all ears. 2. What do you see more of when you're out and about - babies or Mexicans? Between 1947 and 1967 that answer would have been babies. g For me, it's still babies. The numbers support this observation as well. I didn't bother to check the numbers for specific states...perhaps the relative balance in California, Arizona, etc. is different. But overall, there are still FAR more babies around than there are immigrants, illegal or otherwise. 3. I've lived next to the Mississippi River all of my life - "flooding" is not a vague term Sorry...I didn't realize you were talking about liquified illegal immigrants. I didn't even realize they existed. You'd think an event like that would gain some sort of national attention, but I've yet to hear about it. Everyone's basements getting filled up with liquid immigrants and all. Seems like all the news media companies would want to cover that. You're in love with the numbers, but unfortunately, lost in them too. The parade is over here, Pete. You are the one who started with the numbers, not I. It just happens that your numbers were bull****, while mine actually have some basis in fact. I'm not in love with them; I just hate to see someone else abusing them. Pete |
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Montblack wrote:
Somewhat agree here, however, we're now back to square one - what is the real number of illegals hunkering down within our infrastructure? My eyes tell me our Government has lost ALL control of even counting them! Pete, they're everywhere - in numbers. Pablo Montblack That's funny, but pretty soon you'll be spelling that "Pablo MonteNegro" :-)) The Monk |
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
ups.com... Tomorrow is the so-called "Immigrant Boycott", planned so that illegal aliens can make a show of their economic clout in America by staying home from work. Um, first of all...any illegal immigrant dumb enough to reveal their status as an illegal by participating in a boycott by only illegal immigrants deserves to get deported. That alone should suggest there's something fishy with the idea that this is a boycott by illegal immigrants only. Secondly, in this particular case, the boycott *is* by ALL immigrants, legal or otherwise. I don't know if everyone who's replied so far just didn't bother to read the news, or if they are reading news that sucks, but my news sources are all in agreement that the proposed boycott is by all immigrants, not just illegals. Which means your question actually makes more sense than anyone could possibly have guessed, giving your lead-in. [...] Anyone have any idea if the airlines have contingency plans for this sort of thing? What'll they do if there's no one to unload the planes? There's enough disagreement within the immigrant community regarding the wisdom of creating a day of chaos just to make a point, that I think it's unlikely critical things like transportation infrastructure will be affected in any significant way. Worst-case scenario: they'll make the passengers all grab their own bags before heading into the airport. Could make for the shortest end-to-end travel day ever, what with no one having to sit around waiting for their bags to come out. Pete |
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Um, first of all...any illegal immigrant dumb enough to reveal their status
as an illegal by participating in a boycott by only illegal immigrants deserves to get deported. What a great idea! However, I don't think the vision of hundreds of busses lined up, so that the protesting illegals can be promptly shipped back home is what you had in mind? Secondly, in this particular case, the boycott *is* by ALL immigrants, legal or otherwise. I don't know if everyone who's replied so far just didn't bother to read the news, or if they are reading news that sucks, but my news sources are all in agreement that the proposed boycott is by all immigrants, not just illegals. Right. And Iran is building reactors to produce electricity. Legal immigrants have NOTHING to protest. In fact, of the many legal (recent) immigrants I know, ALL are directly and vehemently opposed to ANY kind of "amnesty" for the illegals. We're ALL "immigrants" to America, Pete. The purpose of this boycott is to highlight the so-called "importance" of illegal aliens to our economy, so that Congress doesn't "criminalize" (I LOVE that term -- as if it's not already criminal to be here illegally) being in this country illegally. (This is almost a direct quote from a boycott organizer that I just heard interviewed on NPR, by the way. We almost died laughing...) -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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Jay Honeck wrote: We're ALL "immigrants" to America No way. I was born here. |
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We're ALL "immigrants" to America
No way. I was born here. Ouch. Okay, I deserved that... ;-) How about: "All of our families immigrated to America"? -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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How about: "All of our families immigrated to America"?
How far back do you want to go? There were native Americans here, and some of those folks have families. Some of them even have families with other native Americans. Jose -- The price of freedom is... well... freedom. for Email, make the obvious change in the address. |
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message oups.com... We're ALL "immigrants" to America No way. I was born here. Ouch. Okay, I deserved that... ;-) How about: "All of our families immigrated to America"? Including the aborigines. |
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Jay Honeck wrote: We're ALL "immigrants" to America No way. I was born here. Ouch. Okay, I deserved that... ;-) How about: "All of our families immigrated to America"? While that may or may not be true, it is irrelavant. Watch your email inbox today for comments made by the Australian prime minister. He basically says love it or leave it. |
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
ups.com... Legal immigrants have NOTHING to protest. Of course they do. Anyone who disagrees with the current immigration policy has something to protest. You don't have to be an illegal to disagree with the US government. |
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