Carrying Skis in a Single...

Thank you everyone - a lot of great responses-

I'm already scheduled to spend two weekends at the end of the month
with a very experienced mountain instructor. I'm also obsessive about
safety (and a rather avid outdoorsman), so I would not dream of flying
outside of the bay area (if not above a major interstate) without an
'unexpected camping trip' pack that I'm currently putting together
(half dozen MRE's, tent, blankets, GPS, ELT, handheld radios, butane
stove+pot, etc, all in a single bag secured with heavy-duty velcro.)

As for planes... The Cardinal is still tempting, as is the Navion (with
the Cherokee-6 being my dream)... unfortunately, my current budget
doesn't allow for examples of either of those that I would be willing
to fly. Fortunately I'm patient, I'll wait until I have the money and
spring for a ship that will suit my needs.

Thanks again

-Scott

Don't forget some space blankets in your pockets.

Before I bought an airplane, try a rental of a similar
model, to know what it will do. Renting a 6 place cargo
hauler for one or two trips a year and owning an Cardinal
for the other 50 weeks is probably less cash out of pocket.



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"EridanMan" wrote in message
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| Thank you everyone - a lot of great responses-
|
| I'm already scheduled to spend two weekends at the end of
the month
| with a very experienced mountain instructor. I'm also
obsessive about
| safety (and a rather avid outdoorsman), so I would not
dream of flying
| outside of the bay area (if not above a major interstate)
without an
| 'unexpected camping trip' pack that I'm currently putting
together
| (half dozen MRE's, tent, blankets, GPS, ELT, handheld
radios, butane
| stove+pot, etc, all in a single bag secured with
heavy-duty velcro.)
|
| As for planes... The Cardinal is still tempting, as is the
Navion (with
| the Cherokee-6 being my dream)... unfortunately, my
current budget
| doesn't allow for examples of either of those that I would
be willing
| to fly. Fortunately I'm patient, I'll wait until I have
the money and
| spring for a ship that will suit my needs.
|
| Thanks again
|
| -Scott
|

On 2006-05-08, Peter Duniho wrote:
"Dylan Smith" wrote in message
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How about a handheld aviation radio? It's likely you are going to be in
reasonably frequent line-of-sight from an airliner.

As a substitute for carrying survival gear? I don't think that's a
reasonable exchange.

No, of course not. As an addition to carry survival gear. A modern
handheld aviation radio is not big enough to displace survival gear.
However, it may get you in contact with someone much faster if you
happen to crash outside of mobile phone service.

IMHO, one of the best things a person can do, beyond having a good, reliable
ELT with them is to have filed an accurate flight plan with someone who will
come looking for you if you don't arrive on time. There are few forms of
communications that are highly reliable when you're in a remote location.
Expecting to be able to contact someone after the crash seems optimistic to
me.

That's why no one is suggesting that it's expected. However, I think the
more options you have the better, and if you can carry a portable radio
- why not? It's another option.

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"Dylan Smith" wrote in message
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Expecting to be able to contact someone after the crash seems optimistic
to
me.

That's why no one is suggesting that it's expected.

By posting your message in reply to my post, and in reply to this tangent of
the thread, YOU suggested that it's expected.

You might think about being more clear about your point. This tangent in
this thread started out about whether to carry survival gear or not. All of
my replies have been on that topic. You replied to one of my replies, with
the implication that you were asking about how a handheld aviation radio
relates to the question of carrying survival gear.

However, I think the
more options you have the better, and if you can carry a portable radio
- why not? It's another option.

If all you're asking is whether a handheld radio is a useful tool, you might
want to start a different thread. Though, the answer is obviously "yes".
Even if you don't wind up crashing, you could still have an electrical or
radio failure (a more likely reason to need a handheld, IMHO). Just as
having modern avionics, seatbelts, fuel, wings, and a host of other things
is useful. But the question of whether any of those things is useful
doesn't really fit in here. We're talking about whether some form of
communications is sufficient for negating the need for survival equipment.

When you depart the topic, it's pretty hard for people to figure out what
you're really asking.

Pete

"Dylan Smith" wrote in message
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On 2006-05-08, Peter Duniho wrote:
"Dylan Smith" wrote in message
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How about a handheld aviation radio? It's likely you are going to be in
reasonably frequent line-of-sight from an airliner.

As a substitute for carrying survival gear? I don't think that's a
reasonable exchange.

No, of course not. As an addition to carry survival gear. A modern
handheld aviation radio is not big enough to displace survival gear.
However, it may get you in contact with someone much faster if you
happen to crash outside of mobile phone service.

According to all the experts I've talked to, including members of the CAP
here in the Rockies, a radio is a good option. A plane equipped with one of
the new 406 ELTs is also a good option. They also say that the survival
rate of the plane-mount ELTs in a big crash is not high. The best thing,
I'm told, is a personal locator beacon (or ELT) with GPS. There aren't many
of these with GPS but the ACR one is supposed to be top of the line.
They'll cut down the search pattern to just a few miles rather than hundreds
of miles... Barring nasty weather, we're talking recovery in 20 hours or so
versus many days... I've given my family hints along this line for ideas
for Christmas and/or birthdays for me... ;-)

Originally Posted by EridanMan

..............
As for planes... The Cardinal is still tempting, as is the Navion (with
the Cherokee-6 being my dream)... unfortunately, my current budget
doesn't allow for examples of either of those that I would be willing
to fly. ..................

-Scott

When you do get ready to spend money, take a look at the 206 with a cargo pod (or 336/337 w/ pod if you want a twin). The pod will fit most of the modern shaped skiis and up to 300# of the bulky, light outwear. The pod is available after market; however, it is less expensive to buy a plane that already has one. We take numerous family (5 people big and small) ski trips every winter and the 206 fits the bill for most of them.

The Pod is hard to beat, especially for skiers, and really sets the 206 apart from the crowd. The 300 ponies help when flying high and heavy.

CJS

"Rowsign" wrote in message
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EridanMan Wrote:
..............
As for planes... The Cardinal is still tempting, as is the Navion
(with
the Cherokee-6 being my dream)... unfortunately, my current budget
doesn't allow for examples of either of those that I would be willing
to fly. ..................

-Scott

When you do get ready to spend money, take a look at the 206 with a
cargo pod (or 336/337 w/ pod if you want a twin). The pod will fit most
of the modern shaped skiis and up to 300# of the bulky, light outwear.
The pod is available after market; however, it is less expensive to buy
a plane that already has one. We take numerous family (5 people big and
small) ski trips every winter and the 206 fits the bill for most of
them.

The Pod is hard to beat, especially for skiers, and really sets the 206
apart from the crowd. The 300 ponies help when flying high and heavy.

CJS


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The guys at ATG are saying that the're gonna offer a belly pod on the
Javelin that will attach to some hardpoints there... Should accept a few
pairs of skis to go with the 2 bags of golf clubs that fit in the
compartment behind the back seat... Anyone got an extra 2.5mil? ;-)