Cabin Class?

What constitutes a cabin class aircraft? I see the term thrown around a lot
and I wondered if it had a precise criteria or if it's just a term aircraft
sales people throw around use loosely.


Dallas

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"Dallas" wrote:

What constitutes a cabin class aircraft? I see the term thrown around a lot
and I wondered if it had a precise criteria or if it's just a term aircraft
sales people throw around use loosely.

If it has a single cabin door that everyone enters through and walk up a
central aisle to get to the cockpit, it is cabin class.
Small cabin class include...
Cessna 320, 340, 400, 420 series.
Piper Malibu, Navaho, Cheyenne

Dallas wrote:

What constitutes a cabin class aircraft? I see the term thrown around a lot
and I wondered if it had a precise criteria or if it's just a term aircraft
sales people throw around use loosely.

My understanding, at least for the small singles and light twins, is that
cabin class seating is the difference between a Bonanza A36 seating and a
Bonanza V35 seating. IOW, instead of all seats facing forward, passenger
seating is arranged in such a way that two of the four seats face the rear
of the aircraft. This is also similar to the passenger compartment of most
standard sized limousines.



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Peter

If you can stand up, it is cabin class. Club seating does
not make "cabin class."


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ATP,CFI,A&P

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"Peter R." wrote in message
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| Dallas wrote:
|
| What constitutes a cabin class aircraft? I see the term
thrown around a lot
| and I wondered if it had a precise criteria or if it's
just a term aircraft
| sales people throw around use loosely.
|
| My understanding, at least for the small singles and light
twins, is that
| cabin class seating is the difference between a Bonanza
A36 seating and a
| Bonanza V35 seating. IOW, instead of all seats facing
forward, passenger
| seating is arranged in such a way that two of the four
seats face the rear
| of the aircraft. This is also similar to the passenger
compartment of most
| standard sized limousines.
|
|
|
| --
| Peter

"Jim Macklin" wrote in message

If you can stand up, it is cabin class. Club seating does
not make "cabin class."

I never heard that stand-up headroom was a requirment to be termed cabin
class. I've flown several airplanes over the years, such as 400 series
Cessnas and some small-med turboprops, configured for both airline and
charter/corporate use, all of which were termed cabin class by ops, mx, and
the Fed, but none of which offered stand-up headroom. There are numerous
exec jets that don't offer stand-up headroom. I don't pretend to know the
exact specs, if any exist, but I don't think stand up is one of them.

see
http://www.ezinearticles.com/?Enteri...craft&id=33419
"A corporate flight attendant is typically utilized on a
"cabin class" aircraft. They are larger aircraft with
usually 19 or less seats, where you can easily get up and
walk around the cabin. Compared with a Westwind, Lear, or
Cessna, the larger jets have an aisle to walk up and down
upon and the headroom usually is adequate to allow easy
passage of anyone under 6' tall." end of quote from linked
article.

The Beech 1900 was stretched vertically to make the 1900D
with a taller cabin than the 1900/and other King Airs, so it
has stand-up room. You have to stoop in a King Air and a
Lear 35, Beech Duke, all the 400 series Cessna's require a
deep stoop or almost hands and knees.

A Duke, for instance is a wonderful airplane once you are
seated, same for a 421C, same for a lot of airplanes that
are called "cabin class" by a sales department that is
trying to sell a charter.

When Bill Lear introduced the Lear 20 series, people
complained about the small cabin and his answer was he'd
rather sit in a small cabin for 1 hour than have walking
around room for 3 hours [something like that].


"John Gaquin" wrote in message
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|
| "Jim Macklin" wrote
in message
|
| If you can stand up, it is cabin class. Club seating
does
| not make "cabin class."
|
| I never heard that stand-up headroom was a requirment to
be termed cabin
| class. I've flown several airplanes over the years, such
as 400 series
| Cessnas and some small-med turboprops, configured for both
airline and
| charter/corporate use, all of which were termed cabin
class by ops, mx, and
| the Fed, but none of which offered stand-up headroom.
There are numerous
| exec jets that don't offer stand-up headroom. I don't
pretend to know the
| exact specs, if any exist, but I don't think stand up is
one of them.
|
|

"Jim Macklin" wrote in message
news:01b7g.17787$ZW3.13225@dukeread04...
see
http://www.ezinearticles.com/?Enteri...craft&id=33419

Nice, but that article is more of a sales promo than real data.

"A corporate flight attendant is typically utilized on a
"cabin class" aircraft. They are larger aircraft with
usually 19 or less seats, where you can easily get up and
walk around the cabin. Compared with a Westwind, Lear, or
Cessna, the larger jets have an aisle to walk up and down
upon and the headroom usually is adequate to allow easy
passage of anyone under 6' tall." end of quote from linked
article.

Commuter aircraft are quite different than what we're discussing here.

"Jim Macklin" wrote in message

seated, same for a 421C, same for a lot of airplanes that
are called "cabin class" by a sales department that is
trying to sell a charter.

The 400 series Cessna and several other similar craft have been defined as
cabin-class for years not only by sales departments, but by operators and
feds, too, each of which carries as much or more legitimacy than your cited
article, which is naught more than someone else's sales pitch. Nice try.
Stand-up headroom would be a valid standard to start with, except that you'd
be about 50 years late in applying it.

"John Gaquin" wrote in message
. ..

"Jim Macklin" wrote in message

If you can stand up, it is cabin class. Club seating does
not make "cabin class."

I never heard that stand-up headroom was a requirment to be termed cabin
class. I've flown several airplanes over the years, such as 400 series
Cessnas and some small-med turboprops, configured for both airline and
charter/corporate use, all of which were termed cabin class by ops, mx,
and the Fed, but none of which offered stand-up headroom. There are
numerous exec jets that don't offer stand-up headroom. I don't pretend to
know the exact specs, if any exist, but I don't think stand up is one of
them.
See my response to Jim.

"John Gaquin" writes:

If you can stand up, it is cabin class. Club seating does not
make "cabin class."

I never heard that stand-up headroom was a requirment to be termed cabin
class. [...]

Perhaps the main operational difference is whether or not the cabin is
pressurized.

- FChE