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![]() "Larry Dighera" wrote in message ... That was not my intent. It is just the acceleration of unconstitutional acts perpetrated by the current administration that makes it blatantly obvious. What acceleration? The previous administration was responsible for the Family Medical Leave Act and the Americans With Disabilities Act, neither has any basis in the Constitution. Whether the Patriot Act gives the government the power to do anything they weren't doing before is open to question. In any case, the current administration doesn't come anywhere near the records of the LBJ, FDR, or Lincoln administrations for trampling the Constitution. |
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![]() "Larry Dighera" wrote in message ... While those groups certainly are corporations, they do represent their members (hundreds of thousands of citizens) unlike Halliburton, Enron, Exxon, Accuweather, Carlyle Group, ..., that exert more legislative influence than the lawmakers' own constituents. Big business only represents greed, and their unethical (Abramoffesque) corruption of legislators must be stopped. The solutions are obvious. Stop regulating those businesses and establish term limits for legislators. |
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Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
The solutions are obvious. Stop regulating those businesses and establish term limits for legislators. Exactly. |
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![]() "kontiki" wrote in message ... Steven P. McNicoll wrote: The solutions are obvious. Stop regulating those businesses and establish term limits for legislators. Exactly. Right. Look at the congressional class of '94. They came roaring in ready to change the world. After a few years, some quit in disgust and the rest were chastized by the "Old Dogs" who taught them how to get along. If we had a whole new class of '94 every 8-12 years, we'd come closer to getting an honest government - i. e. term limits. Of course, congress is never going to propose an amendment to put themselves out on the street, but the states can bypass congress and call a constitutional convention. Since a lot of states have tried, unsuccessfully, I don't understand why this has not been done. |
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![]() "birdog" wrote in message ... "kontiki" wrote in message ... Steven P. McNicoll wrote: The solutions are obvious. Stop regulating those businesses and establish term limits for legislators. Exactly. Right. Look at the congressional class of '94. They came roaring in ready to change the world. After a few years, some quit in disgust and the rest were chastized by the "Old Dogs" who taught them how to get along. If we had a whole new class of '94 every 8-12 years, we'd come closer to getting an honest government - i. e. term limits. Of course, congress is never going to propose an amendment to put themselves out on the street, but the states can bypass congress and call a constitutional convention. Since a lot of states have tried, unsuccessfully, I don't understand why this has not been done. I have one problem with term limits. It gives added power to several groups that have shown very little ability to deal with power. Government employees. |
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"birdog" wrote in message .. . "kontiki" wrote in message ... Steven P. McNicoll wrote: The solutions are obvious. Stop regulating those businesses and establish term limits for legislators. Exactly. Right. Look at the congressional class of '94. They came roaring in ready to change the world. After a few years, some quit in disgust and the rest were chastized by the "Old Dogs" who taught them how to get along. If we had a whole new class of '94 every 8-12 years, we'd come closer to getting an honest government - i. e. term limits. Of course, congress is never going to propose an amendment to put themselves out on the street, but the states can bypass congress and call a constitutional convention. Since a lot of states have tried, unsuccessfully, I don't understand why this has not been done. I have one problem with term limits. It gives added power to several groups that have shown very little ability to deal with power. Government employees. Term limits should then apply to _all_ civilians in government. -ash Cthulhu in 2005! Why wait for nature? |
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![]() snip I have one problem with term limits. It gives added power to several groups that have shown very little ability to deal with power. Government employees. Term limits should then apply to _all_ civilians in government. Why limit only civilians? Some would submit that limits are also desirable for uniformed employees as they have even more opportunity for empire building, and are also more likely to experience loss of ability, discretion and motivation due to burnout. |
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snip I have one problem with term limits. It gives added power to several groups that have shown very little ability to deal with power. Government employees. Term limits should then apply to _all_ civilians in government. Why limit only civilians? Some would submit that limits are also desirable for uniformed employees as they have even more opportunity for empire building, and are also more likely to experience loss of ability, discretion and motivation due to burnout. Because there is no civilian equivilant of a soldier... Not even a policeman. For other government jobs a person can serve for a while and then go onto another simular job. -ash Cthulhu in 2005! Why wait for nature? |
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Because there is no civilian equivilant of a soldier...
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![]() "Ash Wyllie" wrote For other government jobs a person can serve for a while and then go onto another simular job. My question is, how far up your rectal canal is your head? These people then have forgone the opportunity to contribute to a pension program, that can lead to retirement, then? Why would ANYONE ever work for a governmental job, in that case. I see lots of opportunity for even greater incompetance. Only losers would take a government job. -- Jim in NC |
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