A380 flew into Heathrow today

"FLAV8R" wrote in message
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"Thomas Borchert" wrote in message ...
Flav8R,

Since I fly for free I don't board planes with ugly flight Attendants
or ugly aircraft designs.


Then you obviously don't need to fly often.

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

Well you are right on that one.
Ever since the US flight Attendants (stewardesses) sued the
airlines for the weight restrictions there haven't been
very many slender ones. Now most look like they
would take your last cookie by force if need be.
I don't know if you have seen this video but I figure
you might enjoy it since it has to do with the A380.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...etpack&pl=true

Enjoy, David




David...

Thanks for the link. My 11 yr old son loved watching it...




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In article .com,
"Kingfish" wrote:

Now Thomas, no need to be smug... Even if no airline orders the 800-pax
version (with comfy cattle-car seating) the idea of a stretched A380
seems absurd for an aircraft that already has a huge seating capacity

Cargo. And not the self-loading kind.

--
Bob Noel
Looking for a sig the
lawyers will hate

"FLAV8R" wrote in message
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"Thomas Borchert" wrote in message ...
Flav8R,

Since I fly for free I don't board planes with ugly flight Attendants
or ugly aircraft designs.


US flight attendants are the oldest and ugliest flying, at least on the
international routes.

"Bob Noel" wrote in message
...
In article .com,
"Kingfish" wrote:

Now Thomas, no need to be smug... Even if no airline orders the 800-pax
version (with comfy cattle-car seating) the idea of a stretched A380
seems absurd for an aircraft that already has a huge seating capacity

Cargo. And not the self-loading kind.

http://formerspook.blogspot.com/2006...-of-story.html

\excerpt

As we noted a few months back, both Airbus (and the A380 program) are in a
bit of trouble. The super jumbo was conceived when oil prices were below $40
a barrel, and a 555-passenger jetliner made economic sense. Now, with a
barrel of crude hovering in the $70 range, airlines are looking for aircraft
that are more fuel efficient, particularly on long-haul trans-Atlantic and
trans-Pacific routes. Instead of rolling out a super jumbo of its own,
Boeing wisely opted for development of fuel-efficient jets., notably the 787
"Dreamliner." Over the past two years, the American manufacturer has racked
up 291 firm orders for the 787, compared with only 259 for both the A380 and
the A350, designed to compete directly with the Dreamliner.

Making matters worse, American airports appear to be in little hurry to
expand facilities to accommodate the A380. A 2002 GAO study conservatively
estimated that facility upgrades needed to accommodate New Large Aircraft
(read: A380) at 10 major U.S. airports will total at least 2.1 billion
dollars--a cost that will be borne (ultimately) by travelers and local
taxpayers. At Heathrow, upgrades for the A380 have (so far) run $850
million. The two billion total for U.S. airports is likely low, and there is
opposition in some communities (notably Los Angeles) to expand terminals and
runways to handle the super jumbo. Without wide access to the U.S. market,
the A380 is ultimately doomed; in other words, a passenger flying from
Singapore or Hong Kong on an A380 would have to change planes in Tokyo or
Sidney, adding time (and cost) to the journey.

/end

(see his related post at
http://formerspook.blogspot.com/2006...or-airbus.html

TIFWIW


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Matt
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Site-Fill Homes, LLC.
Montrose, CO (MTJ)

"Kingfish" wrote in message

My God, do we need an airliner with *more* than 800 seats?? That's
reportedly the capacity of the 380 with max density single-class
seating.

Most obvious use for the max density seating would be the Hajj. Best use
for the 380 would be Jakarta-Jeddah. How long til someone [read: Saudi
gov't] leases a few of these for that? 07? 08? Has anyone read whether
the Saudi government is prepping Jeddah for the plane? What about jakarta?
I've flown the 747 in max density config on the Hajj, and I'll tell ya,
that's a lotta damn people! Specially on the return, with the zum-zum
water.

Flav8R,

there haven't been
very many slender ones. Now most look like they
would take your last cookie by force if need be.


And I'm sure you look like the young Warren Beatty?

A lot of those video scenes were shot in my hometown, Hamburg.

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

Gatt,

Having flown for free for many years, I have a difficult time believing
this.


You do? gd&r

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

Kingfish,


IIRC the A380 was certified during the 90 second aircraft exit trials
for 800 pax´

Correct. That's because it is now certified to that number and someone
will certainly order it at some point.

Funny, how people always react the same to anything new...

Now Thomas, no need to be smug...

Didn't mean to be. It's just a tad annoying for a European to see the 380
dissed at each and every occassion with the most absurd logic just
because something that's the biggest and newest is for once not made in
the US of A.

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

"FLAV8R" wrote in message ...
I don't know if you have seen this video but I figure
you might enjoy it since it has to do with the A380.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...etpack&pl=true

Enjoy, David


Thanks for that. I wonder if each plane will require all the parts to be pulled through towns and all that. Looked like
the assembly building is set up for one plane at a time - JIT airplane building, pretty interesting...

Watching the video points out how not to build an airplane. I can't believe
this thing could be competitively priced with all the transportation costs
incurred because each country had to build a piece of it. Only a government
committee could have come up with that plan.

I wonder if the tail comes off if you push to hard on the rudder peddles??

"FLAV8R" wrote in message
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"Thomas Borchert" wrote in message ...
Flav8R,

Since I fly for free I don't board planes with ugly flight Attendants
or ugly aircraft designs.


Then you obviously don't need to fly often.

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

Well you are right on that one.
Ever since the US flight Attendants (stewardesses) sued the
airlines for the weight restrictions there haven't been
very many slender ones. Now most look like they
would take your last cookie by force if need be.
I don't know if you have seen this video but I figure
you might enjoy it since it has to do with the A380.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...etpack&pl=true

Enjoy, David