Careless Linemen

Martin Hotze wrote:
Do you tip the blonde braindead waitress serving your plate with her finger
in your meal? just because you always tip at restaurants and because she
had a big dumb grin on her face hiding her unskilled serving 'technique'?


No, but I have hundreds of restaurants to choose from. There are only two
airports, and I'm already at the cheaper one.

As for tipping for average service, once the linemen figure out you tip, service
isn't necessarily average any more.



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Mortimer Schnerd, RN

VE

On Sat, 27 May 2006 15:22:27 -0500, "Jim Macklin"
wrote:

I always tip the waitress because they work for tips, they
draw a salary about 1/2 the minimum wage because the law
expects they will get minimum wage when the tips are
included.

This is the aitress' problem, not mine. Sorry for being so unsocial and
still being European.

I tip if they laugh at my silly jokes, if they have a nice
smile and they have a good figure. I tip more if they do a
good job, even if it is a guy or a fat girl.

So you tip also for lousy service and tip more for big boobs. I don't.

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On Sun, 28 May 2006 00:57:33 GMT, Mortimer Schnerd, RN wrote:

As for tipping for average service, once the linemen figure out you tip, service
isn't necessarily average any more.

you have to tip first to have him realize that there is more than average
service to give?

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Jessica wrote:
karl gruber wrote:

Actually, in Oregon, it IS against the law to fuel your own airplane.
Can't fuel your own car either.

Heh, even in New Jersey (no self service at service stations) you can
fuel your own airplane, and the marina "line man" will hand you the
nozzle to fill your boat too. Go figure.

The only exception to the self service for road vehicles that I've found
in NJ is the base gase station at McGuire.

That's because the airports and the marinas weren't the one that got
that law put in placed. Despite the bogus claims of safety, the
reason the law exists is because the small gas station owners banded
together with enough political clout to stave off the single
employee mega gas and go that they feared would put them out of business.

Ron Natalie wrote:

Jessica wrote:

karl gruber wrote:

Actually, in Oregon, it IS against the law to fuel your own airplane.
Can't fuel your own car either.


Heh, even in New Jersey (no self service at service stations) you can
fuel your own airplane, and the marina "line man" will hand you the
nozzle to fill your boat too. Go figure.

The only exception to the self service for road vehicles that I've
found in NJ is the base gase station at McGuire.


That's because the airports and the marinas weren't the one that got
that law put in placed. Despite the bogus claims of safety, the
reason the law exists is because the small gas station owners banded
together with enough political clout to stave off the single
employee mega gas and go that they feared would put them out of business.

Another weak attempt (this time by the NJ governor) was just made last
month to permit self serve filling stations in New Jersey. I think it
was just a trial program for the NJ Turnpike Authority roads' service
plazas. The politicians/governor backed down from this revolutionary
idea after they claimed to receive a large number of complaints from the
electorate who don't like to pump their gas. Others said that NJ
drivers are too stupid to pump their gas because they aren't used to it
and they could all blow themselves up. (I guess a large number of NJ
people who have cars never leave more than a tank's distance from the
small garden state---or are they admitting that full serve IS available
elsewhere?)

Apparently some believe that self serve / full serve are mutually
exclusive and that permitting self serve would cause all "full" service
to disappear. (Funny, plenty of stations around me (not in NJ nor OR)
offer "full" service and some focus on it exclusively.) Anyway I still
hate getting gas in that state because a lot of the time I have to wait
for the attendant to get off the cellphone with his girlfriend,
encounter difficulties with communicating the complex expression, "fill
up with regular gas, please," and then am treated with continuous
attempts to top-off/overfill the tank/destroy my evap emissions
canister, followed by gas running down my car's paint as the nozzle is
removed.

Pay at the pump is still a novelty item in NJ and often if you want to
use plastic you will have to wait for the attendant to come to you after
pumping, get your card, run off to the register/card skimmer, help some
other customers, talk to the girlfriend, come back for signature, etc.
If you are lucky to have pay at the pump, you can't use the dangerous
pump device so you will still have to give the card in advance to the
pumper and maybe they will give it right back to you or maybe they will
keep it on top of the pump for safekeeping during your tank filling.

The only thing that is keeping the system afloat is NJ's low gas tax so
that their full serve appears cheaper, but in reality it costs more
after adjusting the gas tax difference.

And you thought the FBO's lineman could be bad....

Flat bellies are more important than big boobs.



"Martin Hotze" wrote in message
...
| On Sat, 27 May 2006 15:22:27 -0500, "Jim Macklin"
| wrote:
|
| I always tip the waitress because they work for tips,
they
| draw a salary about 1/2 the minimum wage because the law
| expects they will get minimum wage when the tips are
| included.
|
| This is the aitress' problem, not mine. Sorry for being so
unsocial and
| still being European.
|
| I tip if they laugh at my silly jokes, if they have a
nice
| smile and they have a good figure. I tip more if they do
a
| good job, even if it is a guy or a fat girl.
|
| So you tip also for lousy service and tip more for big
boobs. I don't.
|
| #m
| --
| Did you ever realize how much text fits in eighty columns?
If you now consider
| that a signature usually consists of up to four lines,
this gives you enough
| space to spread a tremendous amount of information with
your messages. So seize
| this opportunity and don't waste your signature with
bull**** nobody will read.

Another reason not to live in New Jersey.


"Jonathan Simpson" wrote in message
...
| Ron Natalie wrote:
|
| Jessica wrote:
|
| karl gruber wrote:
|
| Actually, in Oregon, it IS against the law to fuel
your own airplane.
| Can't fuel your own car either.
|
|
| Heh, even in New Jersey (no self service at service
stations) you can
| fuel your own airplane, and the marina "line man" will
hand you the
| nozzle to fill your boat too. Go figure.
|
| The only exception to the self service for road
vehicles that I've
| found in NJ is the base gase station at McGuire.
|
|
| That's because the airports and the marinas weren't the
one that got
| that law put in placed. Despite the bogus claims of
safety, the
| reason the law exists is because the small gas station
owners banded
| together with enough political clout to stave off the
single
| employee mega gas and go that they feared would put them
out of business.
|
| Another weak attempt (this time by the NJ governor) was
just made last
| month to permit self serve filling stations in New Jersey.
I think it
| was just a trial program for the NJ Turnpike Authority
roads' service
| plazas. The politicians/governor backed down from this
revolutionary
| idea after they claimed to receive a large number of
complaints from the
| electorate who don't like to pump their gas. Others said
that NJ
| drivers are too stupid to pump their gas because they
aren't used to it
| and they could all blow themselves up. (I guess a large
number of NJ
| people who have cars never leave more than a tank's
distance from the
| small garden state---or are they admitting that full serve
IS available
| elsewhere?)
|
| Apparently some believe that self serve / full serve are
mutually
| exclusive and that permitting self serve would cause all
"full" service
| to disappear. (Funny, plenty of stations around me (not
in NJ nor OR)
| offer "full" service and some focus on it exclusively.)
Anyway I still
| hate getting gas in that state because a lot of the time I
have to wait
| for the attendant to get off the cellphone with his
girlfriend,
| encounter difficulties with communicating the complex
expression, "fill
| up with regular gas, please," and then am treated with
continuous
| attempts to top-off/overfill the tank/destroy my evap
emissions
| canister, followed by gas running down my car's paint as
the nozzle is
| removed.
|
| Pay at the pump is still a novelty item in NJ and often if
you want to
| use plastic you will have to wait for the attendant to
come to you after
| pumping, get your card, run off to the register/card
skimmer, help some
| other customers, talk to the girlfriend, come back for
signature, etc.
| If you are lucky to have pay at the pump, you can't use
the dangerous
| pump device so you will still have to give the card in
advance to the
| pumper and maybe they will give it right back to you or
maybe they will
| keep it on top of the pump for safekeeping during your
tank filling.
|
| The only thing that is keeping the system afloat is NJ's
low gas tax so
| that their full serve appears cheaper, but in reality it
costs more
| after adjusting the gas tax difference.
|
| And you thought the FBO's lineman could be bad....

entire requote snipped
Jim Macklin wrote:

Another reason not to live in New Jersey.

Or Oregon, same deal there with respect to full serve gasoline.

At least in Oregon the Second Amendment and other civil
rights are still in effect. But self-serve gas was a
technological problem until they invented the modern
electric fuel pump, about 1945. Before that you had to pump
a measured amount of fuel into the graduated glass
reservoir, which was then drained into the vehicle. Today's
modern, computer controlled pumps are a wonder of design.
BTW, do either NJ or OR require any special training in fire
safety, hazardous materials, plumbing or auto-mechanics and
do they certify and license "gas pump jockey's?"


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"Jonathan Simpson" wrote in
message ...
| entire requote snipped
| Jim Macklin wrote:
|
| Another reason not to live in New Jersey.
|
| Or Oregon, same deal there with respect to full serve
gasoline.

On 2006-05-27, B A R R Y wrote:
On Sat, 27 May 2006 14:59:30 -0400, "Morgans"
wrote:

You'll have to excuse Martin. He is used to the European idea of no tips
for service people.

Which gets your food spit in (or worse) and allows you to wait much
longer than necessary in NYC. G

I have to wonder how NYC waiters know a patron isn't going to tip. I
thought tips were paid AFTER the meal, with the check? Perhaps they have
some time travel machine to see if the patron is a tightwad or not :-)

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