Ercoupes... ?

..Blueskies. wrote
Interesting it says "castoring wheels and the steerable nose wheel
could align with the runway on impact."

I think that they speak in error, other, seemingly more authoritative
web sites dealing with the Ercoupe deny that the wheels castor at all.

Bob Moore

"BS" == Blueskies .Blueskies. writes:

BS Interesting it says "castoring wheels and the steerable nose
BS wheel could align with the runway on impact."

I exchanged several emails with the #*!@&# that wrote that, and he
wouldn't budge on his choice of words, even tho pretty much the entire
Ercoupe community blasted him for it. Coupe drivers can be old coots.

dear bob,

very sloppy punctuation in the creation of that run-on sentence.
lose the comma after the word "error", replace the comma with a period.
then, if you're going to create a parenthetical phrase after "other",
you must put another comma after "ercoupe. there; that's much better.

i'm a little curious about which groups you consider "more
authoritative" than the by-god national air and space museum.
"seemingly" to whom??

fair's fair. jus funnin ya.



dan


Bob Moore wrote:
.Blueskies. wrote
Interesting it says "castoring wheels and the steerable nose wheel
could align with the runway on impact."

I think that they speak in error, other, seemingly more authoritative
web sites dealing with the Ercoupe deny that the wheels castor at all.

Bob Moore

..Blueskies. wrote:
"houstondan" wrote in message oups.com...
: this link should get you to the national air and space museum
: description of the ercoupe.
:
:
: //www.nasm.si.edu/research/aero/aircraft/erco415.htm
:
: dan
:

Interesting it says "castoring wheels and the steerable nose wheel could align with the runway on impact." I think they
should re-word it to say something like "main landing gear with lots of castor and the steerable nose wheel would align
the airplane with the runway on touchdown."

IMPACT? LOL... Must be one O' them Aviation-phobic types...

Monk

Jim

The U-10 I flew had the castering wheels. All U-10's the Airforce had
had castering wheels. You could land with them locked or in castering
mode.

After years of kicking out the crab just before touch down it was a
strange feeling to go ahead and touch down in the crab and roll
straight down the runway with bird cocked into the cross wind.

Was not easy to taxi in castering mode so as soon as you got off
runway you relocked them so you could taxi back to parking area
comfortably.

Most landings were in fixed mode and castering primarily used when
checking a new pilot out in bird.

Fly safe and have a nice day.

Big John
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On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 12:42:53 -0500, "Jim Macklin"
wrote:

B52 gear is set for the crab angle for take-off and landing,
the gear is locked in position and doesn't free caster. It
is also used for steering.

Crosswind landing gear from Goodyear was installed on the
Helio Courier as an option, the main gear wheels could be
lock straight ahead or unlocked and free caster.



"Bob Moore" wrote in message
.122...
| houstondan wrote
|
| did you notice the castering mains?? idea stolen by big
boeings and
| shopping carts everywhere. also very cool.
|
| Which Boeings have castering main landing gear?
| Is the Shift Key broken on your computer?
|
| Bob Moore

Jim

Wasn't there a retrofit that put rudder peddles in bird and gave it
three dimensional controls like the rest of GA aircraft? The only
bitch I heard about the original bird landing in crab, was that the
tire wear was pretty bad and you had to chnge often if a lot of cross
wind landings.

Fly safe and have a nice day.

Big John
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On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 11:11:53 -0500, "Jim Macklin"
wrote:

The rudder are linked to the ailerons.



"Flyingmonk" wrote in message
oups.com...
| http://cactusballoonflights.com/ercoupe/e6a.jpg
|
| If there are no pedals, why are there hinges?
|
| Monk
|

Big John wrote:
Jim

Wasn't there a retrofit that put rudder peddles in bird and gave it
three dimensional controls like the rest of GA aircraft? The only
bitch I heard about the original bird landing in crab, was that the
tire wear was pretty bad and you had to chnge often if a lot of cross
wind landings.

There was a retrofit rudder pedal kit for the original Ercoupe
models. Quite a few of the ones I've seen have that mod. The later
manufacturer like Alon and Mooney incorporated rudders pedals as
standard.

John Galban=====N4BQ (PA28-180)

"Big John" wrote in message ...
:
: Jim
:
: The U-10 I flew had the castering wheels. All U-10's the Airforce had
: had castering wheels. You could land with them locked or in castering
: mode.
:
: After years of kicking out the crab just before touch down it was a
: strange feeling to go ahead and touch down in the crab and roll
: straight down the runway with bird cocked into the cross wind.
:
: Was not easy to taxi in castering mode so as soon as you got off
: runway you relocked them so you could taxi back to parking area
: comfortably.
:
: Most landings were in fixed mode and castering primarily used when
: checking a new pilot out in bird.
:
: Fly safe and have a nice day.
:
: Big John

OK, the Courier...I remember folks talking about that ability...

very sloppy punctuation in the creation of that run-on sentence.
lose the comma after the word "error", replace the comma with a period.
then, if you're going to create a parenthetical phrase after "other",
you must put another comma after "ercoupe. there; that's much better.

If you're going to criticize someone's punctuation, you had better
learn to punctuate correctly. If you live in the U.S., put commas and
periods INSIDE the quotation marks, like this:

You'll find that rule in any grammar text published in the U.S.

lose the word "error," .... parenthetical phrase after "other,"
.......you must put another comma after "ercoupe."

And BTW, "Lose" and "Ercoupe" should be capitalized; and "castor" is a
kind of oil used in rotary engines. The word you want is "caster."

vince norris

mr. norris,
well, gee, sir, you're kinda comin in late on something here. i
was making a sarcastic point about someone who was nitpickin me in the
way you just did. mayhapz you could read the whole thing for context.
personally, i could care less but if'n you is about the bizness of
correcting newsgroups you're gunna be real busy.

thank you for your intereszt.

dan



vincent p. norris wrote:
very sloppy punctuation in the creation of that run-on sentence.
lose the comma after the word "error", replace the comma with a period.
then, if you're going to create a parenthetical phrase after "other",
you must put another comma after "ercoupe. there; that's much better.

If you're going to criticize someone's punctuation, you had better
learn to punctuate correctly. If you live in the U.S., put commas and
periods INSIDE the quotation marks, like this:

You'll find that rule in any grammar text published in the U.S.

lose the word "error," .... parenthetical phrase after "other,"
......you must put another comma after "ercoupe."

And BTW, "Lose" and "Ercoupe" should be capitalized; and "castor" is a
kind of oil used in rotary engines. The word you want is "caster."

vince norris