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Old November 29th 06, 09:37 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Dan[_1_]
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Default Air taxi vs. Charter or Part 135

All,

What's the difference between "Air Taxi" and Charter or Part 135
operations? While tracking some flights via FlightAware, I notice that
some planes fly under their tail numbers most of the time, but at times
there is a "T" prefixed to the tail number in the system. I read that
this signifies an "air taxi" operation.

How is this different from charter or 135? If they are the same, they
why are all 135 ops not prefixed with the "T" identifier?

Thanks,
Dan

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Old November 29th 06, 11:37 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Mortimer Schnerd, RN[_2_]
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Dan wrote:
How is this different from charter or 135? If they are the same, they
why are all 135 ops not prefixed with the "T" identifier?



As far as I know, they're all the same. It's been a while since I was a charter
pilot but it was all done under part 135. I have no idea why the identifier is
different. Maybe the operator has canned flight plans that spit out the
identifier?

When I was flying charter, my flight plans didn't indicate that I was doing
anything different than any part 91 operation. I was flying for a FBO, so it
wasn't like we were running a mini airline.



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Old November 30th 06, 04:09 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Default Air taxi vs. Charter or Part 135


"Mortimer Schnerd, RN" mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com wrote in message
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Dan wrote:
How is this different from charter or 135? If they are the same, they
why are all 135 ops not prefixed with the "T" identifier?



As far as I know, they're all the same. It's been a while since I was a
charter pilot but it was all done under part 135. I have no idea why the
identifier is different. Maybe the operator has canned flight plans that
spit out the identifier?

When I was flying charter, my flight plans didn't indicate that I was
doing anything different than any part 91 operation. I was flying for a
FBO, so it wasn't like we were running a mini airline.





According to the AIM...

Pilots operating under provisions of 14 CFR Part 135 and not having an FAA
assigned 3-letter designator, are urged to prefix the normal registration
(N) number with the letter "T" on flight plan filing; e.g., TN1234B.

But lots of folks never do it.



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Old December 1st 06, 03:00 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Ron Natalie
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Default Air taxi vs. Charter or Part 135

Gig 601XL Builder wrote:

According to the AIM...

Pilots operating under provisions of 14 CFR Part 135 and not having an FAA
assigned 3-letter designator, are urged to prefix the normal registration
(N) number with the letter "T" on flight plan filing; e.g., TN1234B.

But lots of folks never do it.



There was a time right after the controller strike that the FAA
gave preference to airlines and 135 operators. People heavily
used TANGO-NOVEMBER to make sure they got their precedence.
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Old December 1st 06, 03:37 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Ron Natalie" wrote in message
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Gig 601XL Builder wrote:

According to the AIM...

Pilots operating under provisions of 14 CFR Part 135 and not having an
FAA assigned 3-letter designator, are urged to prefix the normal
registration (N) number with the letter "T" on flight plan filing; e.g.,
TN1234B.

But lots of folks never do it.



There was a time right after the controller strike that the FAA
gave preference to airlines and 135 operators. People heavily
used TANGO-NOVEMBER to make sure they got their precedence.


We don't call out the NOVEMBER when we call out on the radio. So I have a
question. Is Tango-November said when using the prefix or is it just a
flight plan thing?


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Old December 1st 06, 06:08 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Default Air taxi vs. Charter or Part 135



Gig 601XL Builder wrote:


We don't call out the NOVEMBER when we call out on the radio. So I have a
question. Is Tango-November said when using the prefix or is it just a
flight plan thing?


In any situation where you would use November you add the Tango in front
of it. If you don't then you don't.
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Old December 1st 06, 03:40 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Mortimer Schnerd, RN[_2_]
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Default Air taxi vs. Charter or Part 135

Ron Natalie wrote:
Pilots operating under provisions of 14 CFR Part 135 and not having an FAA
assigned 3-letter designator, are urged to prefix the normal registration
(N) number with the letter "T" on flight plan filing; e.g., TN1234B.

But lots of folks never do it.

There was a time right after the controller strike that the FAA
gave preference to airlines and 135 operators. People heavily
used TANGO-NOVEMBER to make sure they got their precedence.



I must not have gotten the memo. What I do remember about the period was while
the controllers could be sarcastic and surly shortly before the strike, they
sure became friendly and cooperative afterwards.



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Mortimer Schnerd, RN
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Old December 2nd 06, 01:20 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Peter Dohm
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I must not have gotten the memo. What I do remember about the period was

while
the controllers could be sarcastic and surly shortly before the strike,

they
sure became friendly and cooperative afterwards.



--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN
mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com


I was flying as a student pilot during that period, and what I remember most
was that all of the controllers who were inpatient and abrasive suddenly
vanished and that all of the controllers who were friendly and helpfull were
still present.

Peter


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Old December 2nd 06, 02:08 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Ron Natalie
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Default Air taxi vs. Charter or Part 135

Mortimer Schnerd, RN wrote:
Ron Natalie wrote:



I must not have gotten the memo. What I do remember about the period was while
the controllers could be sarcastic and surly shortly before the strike, they
sure became friendly and cooperative afterwards.



It was surly or sarcastic...it was unable to accept people into
certain terminal airspace.
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Old November 29th 06, 11:57 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bob Gardner
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Read this. It contains good operating procedures but is not regulatory in
any sense. My experience with Part 135 is the same as Mortimer's.

http://www.911dispatch.com/info/radio_term.html

Bob Gardner

"Dan" wrote in message
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All,

What's the difference between "Air Taxi" and Charter or Part 135
operations? While tracking some flights via FlightAware, I notice that
some planes fly under their tail numbers most of the time, but at times
there is a "T" prefixed to the tail number in the system. I read that
this signifies an "air taxi" operation.

How is this different from charter or 135? If they are the same, they
why are all 135 ops not prefixed with the "T" identifier?

Thanks,
Dan



 




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