am I loser?

In article , Barnyard BOb --
writes:


Rodney Dangerfield and I get no repsect.


Barnyard BOb --



But at least Rodney is funny! ;-))))))))))


Bob Reed
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

If I DUMBED my stuff down where
you could comprehend it......

It would be at least as funny to you. g


Barnyard BOb -- Don Rickles is my hero



BFG

We could never have guessed that.


Bob Reed
www.kisbuild.r-a-reed-assoc.com (KIS Builders Site)
KIS Cruiser in progress...Slow but steady progress....

"Ladies and Gentlemen, take my advice,
pull down your pants and Slide on the Ice!"
(M.A.S.H. Sidney Freedman)

Corrie wrote:
Ernest Christley wrote in message . com...

Something I just started doing, but I wish I had done BEFORE I started
building. Go to www.ptc.com and get Pro/DESIGNER. It's a free 3D CAD
program. Go through the tutorial and then start putting the plane of
your dreams into the program. It goes fairly quickly once you get the
hang of it. Only tool needed for this phase is a computer, very little
space requirements and being able to flip the thing around to look at it
from odd angles is extremely illuminating.


Is that Pro/DESKTOP? Didn't see a Pro/DESIGNER.

Check the "free downloads" link on the "products" page.

Aah..hell. Here ya' go.

http://www.ptc.com/community/free_downloads.htm

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http://www.ernest.isa-geek.org/
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Still don't see Pro/DESIGNER

"Ernest Christley" wrote in message
. com...
Corrie wrote:
Ernest Christley wrote in message
. com...

Something I just started doing, but I wish I had done BEFORE I started
building. Go to www.ptc.com and get Pro/DESIGNER. It's a free 3D CAD
program. Go through the tutorial and then start putting the plane of
your dreams into the program. It goes fairly quickly once you get the
hang of it. Only tool needed for this phase is a computer, very little
space requirements and being able to flip the thing around to look at it
from odd angles is extremely illuminating.


Is that Pro/DESKTOP? Didn't see a Pro/DESIGNER.

Check the "free downloads" link on the "products" page.

Aah..hell. Here ya' go.

http://www.ptc.com/community/free_downloads.htm

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----Because I can----
http://www.ernest.isa-geek.org/
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"Model Flyer" wrote:

... if I do buy a kit it would become my latest obsession
and I'd never get anything else done until it's finished.

I'm confused... you make it sound like that's a problem...
g

Mark Hickey

Ernest Christley wrote in message .com...

Is that Pro/DESKTOP? Didn't see a Pro/DESIGNER.
Check the "free downloads" link on the "products" page.
Aah..hell. Here ya' go.
http://www.ptc.com/community/free_downloads.htm

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In article , "Model Flyer"
writes:



Bob, I'm interested in build one of the many quick build kits, Jabriu
etc, however, if I do buy a kit it would become my latest obsession
and I'd never get anything else done until it's finished. That's way
it was with computers then printers, so none of the household jobs
ever get done. I tried setting aside one day per week to get the
house repairs done, but that never worked as more printers came in
for repair.:-(
--

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--
Cheers,
Jonathan Lowe
modelflyer at antispam dot net


Sounds like a prescription for divorce! Even the quick build kits are still
quite an undertaking. Yes, the quick builds do shorten the time required for
assembling the airframe but that is only part of the building process. You
still have all the wiring, finishing, engine, and other componets to complete.
The best and fastest build time will still be in something in the order of 500
hours or more depending on your adhearing to the plans and not doing any
modifications.

Understand and plan for what you are getting into. If you are still upto the
task, go for it.


Bob Reed
www.kisbuild.r-a-reed-assoc.com (KIS Builders Site)
KIS Cruiser in progress...Slow but steady progress....

"Ladies and Gentlemen, take my advice,
pull down your pants and Slide on the Ice!"
(M.A.S.H. Sidney Freedman)

On 26 Aug 2003 14:34:20 GMT, osite (RobertR237)
wrote:

:
:Sounds like a prescription for divorce! Even the quick build kits are still
:quite an undertaking. Yes, the quick builds do shorten the time required for
:assembling the airframe but that is only part of the building process. You
:still have all the wiring, finishing, engine, and other componets to complete.
:The best and fastest build time will still be in something in the order of 500
:hours or more depending on your adhearing to the plans and not doing any
:modifications.

There are a few ultralight and microlight (I know that's not a legal
category in the US but it's a good description) aircraft that take
less than 500 hours. A neighbor of mine built a CGS Hawk in 3 weeks
of steady work, probably 60 hours a week or so.

"Mark Hickey" wrote in message
...
"Model Flyer" wrote:

... if I do buy a kit it would become my latest obsession
and I'd never get anything else done until it's finished.

I'm confused... you make it sound like that's a problem...
g

Flying requires an income, if building a kit became an obsession when
would I ever repair printers and computers etc?:-(
--

..
--
Cheers,
Jonathan Lowe
modelflyer at antispam dot net

Antispam trap in place




Mark Hickey

On Sat, 23 Aug 2003 22:12:13 -0400, "Morgans"
wrote:


"Frederick Wilson" wrote in message
news:EOU1b.182903$Oz4.48809@rwcrnsc54...
Well folks I am struggling here. I know what I want to build but I am
having
trouble justifing starting the project. This is what I have going on. New
baby coming in January (I'm excited). Trying to complete the new master
bedroom (Make room for new baby). Going to school. And am a national guard
member on active duty. I try to justify my not starting the project
because
my plate is full and because I have not gotten my two car garage/hanger
built.

I have read in several places how folks started their project in
apartments
and via other means.

Am I a loser, procrastintor, or do I really have a full plate?

Fred


Sounds like plenty, right now.

I would say that you should do the things you need to do around the house,
before you get started on your project. That is the advise that will make
continueing a married relationship possible. Plus, If you get caught up
with the other stuff, you can devote more uninterrupted time to your
project.

I am at the same stage now, in a way.
--
Jim in NC

I agree with Jim. Building an airplane is a lot of fun, but your
family is your life and responsibility. Take care of them first.

Corky Scott

PS, you aren't a looser for thinking about them.

On Sun, 24 Aug 2003, Frederick Wilson wrote:
Am I a loser, procrastintor, or do I really have a full plate?

I say, do what you want.

You don't need to give your life over to aircraft production,
just make a little bit when you can. I did that and have been flying
for five years now.

Your family can still come first, but you don't need to watch TV
with them to be a good Dad.

Keep us posted of your progress please.

George Graham
RX-7 Powered Graham-EZ, N4449E
Homepage http://bfn.org/~ca266