Unscientific survey - why are you a pilot?

On Aug 16, 7:53 am, KAE wrote:
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 14:16:34 -0700, Jay Beckman
wrote:

They say a picture is worth a thousand words. It's probably worth a
few answers as well:

http://www.pbase.com/flyingphotog/image/69390684

Jay Beckman
PP-ASEL
Chandler, AZ
www.pbase.com/flyingphotog

Those photos just about sum it up.

Outstanding photography!
Your sense of composition is exceptional. But so is your mastery of
exposure in so many varied light conditions.
Nice work.

PP-ASEL
Jacksonville, FL

Thank You .. Thankyouverymuch...

Jay B

On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 12:32:38 -0700, Jay Beckman
wrote:

On Aug 16, 7:53 am, KAE wrote:
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 14:16:34 -0700, Jay Beckman
wrote:

They say a picture is worth a thousand words. It's probably worth a
few answers as well:

http://www.pbase.com/flyingphotog/image/69390684

Jay Beckman
PP-ASEL
Chandler, AZ
www.pbase.com/flyingphotog

Those photos just about sum it up.

Outstanding photography!
Your sense of composition is exceptional. But so is your mastery of
exposure in so many varied light conditions.
Nice work.

PP-ASEL
Jacksonville, FL

Thank You .. Thankyouverymuch...

Jay B

What I'd like to know is how did you manage to stowaway on the Apollo
11 mission? Must have taken that photo when Neil and Buzz were out for
a stroll.

KAE wrote:

What I'd like to know is how did you manage to stowaway on the Apollo
11 mission? Must have taken that photo when Neil and Buzz were out for
a stroll.

Houston Space Center has a great display(s)..

BTW Jay, fantastic bunch of shots!!

Interesting. I would have thought the "adventure" part would be
unanimous but that doesn't seem to be the case so far.

For me, it's what aviation is all about. Fuel, navigation, airspace,
weather...the risks are always there and they can always be legally
increased or decreased for relaxation or bigger challenges.

Q summary:
I'm the first pilot in my family. The thought of popping out of OVC2500
-SHRA at night is adventure (tho I haven't been there yet). Art/Music
comes natural to me, but I'm far more interested in science and how
things work (and A B17 on take-off roll blows away any Picasso :-). I
don't care what others do as long as it doesn't affect me in a negative
way (control freak?). I enjoy flying with others, but I love flying
alone and I'll take the non-fiction (aviation book) over fiction. I
sometimes have a hard time recognizing ATC instructions, but I don't
have a problem keying the mic and stating "say again".

In article . com,
Doug Semler wrote:

(Trying to steer a thread to the topic of the group g)

A response of mine in another thread got me to thinking (dangerous, I
know) about what makes a person *want* to become a pilot. This has
probably been asked umpteen times before, and will be asked umpteen
times in the future, but I am trying to get a feel for the
psychological aspect that causes a person to WANT to be a pilot. So
this is directed towards non-pilots and students as well. Of course,
every individual is different, but these 2 newsgroups are pretty
directed towards pilots so can be taken as an unscientfic
representative sample.

In some cases looking in Jay's general direction it's because it's
an opportunity for family bonding and whathaveyou. Some cases are
probably your run-of-the-mill "cool factor" cases. And, of course, I
am sure that there are the cases of the "I'm better than you because I
can do something you can't do" syndrome. But I'm wondering if there
isn't some deep commonality amongst most pilots to which we can
point?

Do you have a "family history" of aviation/piloting?
Are you an adventure seeker (anything from "true" adrenaline junkee to
"every day is different and brings a new challenge")
Are you constantly seeking new challenges?
(subpart) Do you find that you get bored easily?
Do you have a "thirst for knowledge" (e.g. would you rather be in
school than working)?
(subpart) Do you find yourself constantly seeking out new things
about flying regularly or do you only look it up when you run across
something you don't know.
(subpart - for instructors) Do you enjoy it when your student "gets
it" or has that "aha! moment?"
Are you a "control freak" (type-a)?
Do you have hints of "delusions of grandeur?" or is it more like "I'm
on top of the world when I fly"
Are you an introvert or an extrovert?
If given the choice, would you rather read fiction or an aviation
oriented book?
(For those that use the radio) Do you find that you have always had
good communication skills?
Are you left brained or right brained (logic-and-math or Artsy
fartsy)?

Or am I missing something soooo obvious that I'll die of embarassment
when it's pointed out to me? Or even worse, is there no measurable
psychological correlation to flying and I'm just out to lunch
(wouldn't be the first time g)

Note:
I was thinking about including education history (e.g. are pilots more
likely to be college graduates) but that introduces 2 biases (age and
income) into it. However maybe a question along the lines of "while
in school did you consider yourself to be a good student" would be
better.

In article . com,
Doug Semler wrote:

Do you have a "family history" of aviation/piloting?

No

Are you an adventure seeker (anything from "true" adrenaline junkee to
"every day is different and brings a new challenge")

No.

Are you constantly seeking new challenges?

No

(subpart) Do you find that you get bored easily?

No

Do you have a "thirst for knowledge" (e.g. would you rather be in
school than working)?

gawd no.


(subpart) Do you find yourself constantly seeking out new things
about flying regularly or do you only look it up when you run across
something you don't know.

neither


(subpart - for instructors) Do you enjoy it when your student "gets
it" or has that "aha! moment?"

n/a

Are you a "control freak" (type-a)?

no

Do you have hints of "delusions of grandeur?"

no

or is it more like "I'm on top of the world when I fly"

I love flying. does that count?

Are you an introvert or an extrovert?

introvert

If given the choice, would you rather read fiction or an aviation
oriented book?

If those are the only two choices: aviation-oriented

(For those that use the radio) Do you find that you have always had
good communication skills?

No.

Are you left brained or right brained (logic-and-math or Artsy
fartsy)?

Left


Or am I missing something soooo obvious that I'll die of embarassment
when it's pointed out to me? Or even worse, is there no measurable
psychological correlation to flying and I'm just out to lunch
(wouldn't be the first time g)

you didn't ask when we knew we wanted to fly.

--
Bob Noel
(goodness, please trim replies!!!)

("Bob Noel" wrote)
Are you left brained or right brained (logic-and-math or Artsy fartsy)?

Left

Wonder where that puts me with my paint by numbers book?

(goodness, please trim replies!!!)

What he said ....pretty please!!!!


Paul-Mont

Doug Semler wrote:
(Trying to steer a thread to the topic of the group g)

Do you have a "family history" of aviation/piloting?
Nope
Are you an adventure seeker
Not really. Not any further than final glide.
Are you constantly seeking new challenges?
frequently but not constantly
"thirst for knowledge" ( rather be in school than working)?
Like school but it doesn't pay as well
(subpart) Do you find yourself constantly seeking out new things
about flying regularly or do you only look it up when you run across
something you don't know.
As a glider pilot, I learn something new EVERYTIME I'm out. Nature throws a
wide range of variables at me.
Are you a "control freak" (type-a)?
Uh, hands on stick and release. Go where the lift is. On the ground, Que Sera,
Sera
Do you have hints of "delusions of grandeur?" or is it more like "I'm
on top of the world when I fly"
Altitude is attitude. I get kinda low..when I'm low.
Are you an introvert or an extrovert?
If I were introverted any further, I'd be inside out.
If given the choice, would you rather read fiction or an aviation
oriented book?
Fiction book about aviation, or aviation book about fiction.
Do you find that you have always had good communication skills?
yep
Are you left brained or right brained (logic-and-math or Artsy fartsy)?
Artist
Or am I missing something soooo obvious that I'll die of embarassment
when it's pointed out to me? Or even worse, is there no measurable
psychological correlation to flying and I'm just out to lunch
(wouldn't be the first time g)
What?

Note:
However maybe a question along the lines of "while
in school did you consider yourself to be a good student" would be
better.
I thought I was a good student, its my teachers who didn't agree.

I like to fly (soaring) because it is visceral, beautiful, unusual, cerebral,
and less expensive than airplanes. Though admittedly It ain't so good for
getting from A to B.
I do enjoy the occasional motoring around but thats just not where its at for
me.

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On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 08:14:53 -0700, Doug Semler
wrote:

Do you have a "family history" of aviation/piloting?

Yes. Father in the 40's (farmed after he got out of the service),
uncle operated a small pseudo-FBO in MI.

Are you an adventure seeker (anything from "true" adrenaline junkee to
"every day is different and brings a new challenge")

Yes. But now I'm married with children, so the challenges are a little
less adrenaline-generating. IT SUCKS.

Are you constantly seeking new challenges?

Yes. But see above.

(subpart) Do you find that you get bored easily?

Yes.

Do you have a "thirst for knowledge" (e.g. would you rather be in
school than working)?

Yes, but I've learned a helluva lot more "working" than I ever did in
"school".

(subpart) Do you find yourself constantly seeking out new things
about flying regularly or do you only look it up when you run across
something you don't know.

Not current, right now flying isn't an option.

Are you a "control freak" (type-a)?

No way. But I can tend to be a CFR/FAR freak.

Do you have hints of "delusions of grandeur?" or is it more like "I'm
on top of the world when I fly"

Neither. It's better than the best roller coaster I ever rode (and I
get to "drive"!!)

Are you an introvert or an extrovert?

Got me. Depends on the situation.

If given the choice, would you rather read fiction or an aviation
oriented book?

Fiction. I spend every day at the airport in real life.

(For those that use the radio) Do you find that you have always had
good communication skills?

Yes.

Are you left brained or right brained (logic-and-math or Artsy
fartsy)?

Both. FWIW, am ambidextrous also.

Or am I missing something soooo obvious that I'll die of embarassment
when it's pointed out to me? Or even worse, is there no measurable
psychological correlation to flying and I'm just out to lunch
(wouldn't be the first time g)

I am a licensed technician and primarily learned to fly to aid my
communications skills/gain empathy to the customers' (i.e. pilots)
viewpoint/perspective.

TC

Fear of Flying - no joke!
Got my PPL
and still nervous about getting in a plane.
Think I Need a shrink?

On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 00:52:20 +0100, me wrote in
:

Fear of Flying - no joke!
Got my PPL
and still nervous about getting in a plane.
Think I Need a shrink?


I don't think so. That's a healthy attitude toward an unnatural
activity for a wingless creature. You just need more time in the air.
How many flight hours have you logged?