Excellent TV Piece on GA

"B A R R Y" wrote...

Kingfish wrote:
Here in CT it's closer to $7k
with the run-up in fuel costs.

I'd go even higher, now.

At HVN, HFD, and IJD, Warriors and 172's are renting for $120-125/hr.
wet, with 150's and Traumahawk's hitting $105-$110. Some of the
bigger schools are going $55-60/hr. for instructors. I don't know of
schools charging less than $50/hr. for instruction.

For a 55 hr. PPL, that's over 10 grand. I think it would even run
high8's to low 9's at Meriden or Robertson.

I will echo all those prices on Long Island, NY, except I would add the
hidden fuel surcharge of $8-10 per hour. It's never posted on the rate board
and claimed to change every day, but the few times I rented over the past
year its been consistant.

At HVN, HFD, and IJD, Warriors and 172's are renting for $120-125/hr.
wet, with 150's and Traumahawk's hitting $105-$110. Some of the
bigger schools are going $55-60/hr. for instructors. I don't know of
schools charging less than $50/hr. for instruction.

Out here in God's Country, instruction is $30/hour.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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At HVN, HFD, and IJD, Warriors and 172's are renting for $120-125/hr.
wet, with 150's and Traumahawk's hitting $105-$110. Some of the
bigger schools are going $55-60/hr. for instructors. I don't know of
schools charging less than $50/hr. for instruction.

Out here in God's Country, instruction is $30/hour.
--

In Oklahoma you can get a 152 for $57-$67, depending on hourly or block
time, and instructors for as little as $25.

I rent a 172SP with autopilot and color moving map for $100.

"Maxwell" wrote ...

In Oklahoma you can get a 152 for $57-$67, depending on hourly or
block time, and instructors for as little as $25.

I rent a 172SP with autopilot and color moving map for $100.


Wow, that's an amazing price diff. I assume you are talking Hobbs, but even
if it's Tach, that's a great price. What airport is that at?

A 172SP with the NAV II King MFD costs about $135 hobbs wet with a $12 fuel
surcharge on LI, NY (plus nearly 9% state sales tax). Any CFI gets $35-50/hr
cash on the side, $50-60 thru an FBO, and $65-85 if you bring your own plane
to the FBO. The FBOs are paying their CFI's between 33% to 66% of what they
collect.

Jay Honeck wrote:

Okay, so I exaggerate a bit. I *did* pee in a cup (which was never
looked at. Either that or they ran a urine analyis in the ten minutes
I was actually in the doc's office), they *did* weigh me and measure
my height (which tells them...what?), and they did take my blood
pressure.


It's quite likely that the urine test was done. It doesn't take ten
minutes, just a few seconds. They're only testing for the presence of sugar
or proteins. It's done by dipping test strips in the sample. Probably takes
all of 15 seconds.

John Galban=====N4BQ (PA28-180)

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"Maxwell" wrote ...

In Oklahoma you can get a 152 for $57-$67, depending on hourly or
block time, and instructors for as little as $25.

I rent a 172SP with autopilot and color moving map for $100.


Wow, that's an amazing price diff. I assume you are talking Hobbs, but
even if it's Tach, that's a great price. What airport is that at?

A 172SP with the NAV II King MFD costs about $135 hobbs wet with a $12
fuel surcharge on LI, NY (plus nearly 9% state sales tax). Any CFI gets
$35-50/hr cash on the side, $50-60 thru an FBO, and $65-85 if you bring
your own plane to the FBO. The FBOs are paying their CFI's between 33% to
66% of what they collect.


That is a big difference, you may want to shop around. I know we have FBOs
here that charge a great deal more.

This FBO is at KRVS. Prices are hobbs and wet, and they have a good safety
record over many years.

http://christiansenaviation.com/flig...prox_cost.html

http://christiansenaviation.com/airc...al_prices.html

The SP I fly occasionally has dual King 155As, KAP 140, KLN 94, KT 76C.
Don't don't recall the ADF.

They also have some pretty decent P models for $71 on block time.

The only down side is neither will fly as slow as 33 kts.

On Nov 23, 12:13 pm, Jay Honeck wrote:
Out here in God's Country, instruction is $30/hour.
--

Jay,
I always thought that God's Country was much bigger. How could all
God's children fit into an area of only 24.4 square miles?

Hai Longworth

On Fri, 23 Nov 2007 09:13:06 -0800 (PST), Jay Honeck
wrote:

At HVN, HFD, and IJD, Warriors and 172's are renting for $120-125/hr.
wet, with 150's and Traumahawk's hitting $105-$110. Some of the
bigger schools are going $55-60/hr. for instructors. I don't know of
schools charging less than $50/hr. for instruction.

Out here in God's Country, instruction is $30/hour.

We live in the area of the $200k+ "starter" home and $1000/mo. single
bedroom apartment. ;^(

The guy I know who owns a school pays his instructors $25/billable
hour, billed out at $55. I don't think he could keep the lights on
for a $5 cut, and he wouldn't have many decent instructors if he paid
them much less.

It's quite likely that the urine test was done. It doesn't take ten
minutes, just a few seconds. They're only testing for the presence of sugar
or proteins. It's done by dipping test strips in the sample. Probably takes
all of 15 seconds.

Yep, I just checked with my wife (a medical technologist), and she
verified that the urine analysis for a flight physical would be quite
rudimentary, and take just a minute or two to complete...
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Out here in God's Country, instruction is $30/hour.
--
Jay,
I always thought that God's Country was much bigger. How could all
God's children fit into an area of only 24.4 square miles?

Oh, heck -- I'm not just counting Iowa City.

Flight instruction is even cheaper in the *rest* of Iowa... Prolly as
low as $25/hour once you get outside of Iowa City. (AKA: "24 square
miles surrounded by reality")
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"