737 Blown Across Ramp

I know they call it the Windy City, but this is ridiculous...

http://www.aero-news.net/index.cfm?C...-86c169181d87&


Phil

"Phil" wrote in message
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I know they call it the Windy City, but this is ridiculous...

http://www.aero-news.net/index.cfm?C...-86c169181d87&


I asked about damage to the Tillamook Air Museum's Guppy
(http://www.waymarking.com/waymarks/WM13RR) a few years ago and a volunteer
told me that the coast wind had pushed it into the blimp hangar.
Difficult to imagine aircraft that big getting blown around.




-c

Phil wrote:
I know they call it the Windy City, but this is ridiculous...

http://www.aero-news.net/index.cfm?C...-86c169181d87&


Phil

What do you want to bet that the brakes weren't set?

Matt

On Dec 27, 1:14*pm, Matt Whiting wrote:
Phil wrote:
I know they call it the Windy City, but this is ridiculous...

http://www.aero-news.net/index.cfm?C...642-d205-411d-....

Phil

What do you want to bet that the brakes weren't set?

That would be odd. Why would the brakes be set if no one was on board?
Makes it a bit tough to tow.

-Robert

Robert M. Gary wrote:
On Dec 27, 1:14?pm, Matt Whiting wrote:
Phil wrote:
I know they call it the Windy City, but this is ridiculous...

http://www.aero-news.net/index.cfm?C...642-d205-411d-...

Phil

What do you want to bet that the brakes weren't set?

That would be odd. Why would the brakes be set if no one was on board?
Makes it a bit tough to tow.

So it doesn't roll away in the wind all on it's own with no one on board?

Or, if they were expecting to tow it in the immediate future, where were
the chocks to make sure it doesn't roll away in the wind all on it's own
until they got around to towing it?



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Jim Pennino

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On Dec 27, 1:55*pm, wrote:

So it doesn't roll away in the wind all on it's own with no one on board?

Or, if they were expecting to tow it in the immediate future, where were
the chocks to make sure it doesn't roll away in the wind all on it's own
until they got around to towing it?

While its possible that someone does it, I'm not aware of any operator
that sets the brake on aircraft when its not occupied. Usually chalks
work just fine and are easier to move when you need to tow. In smaller
aircraft there are other reasons to avoid setting the brake, like
changes in outside pressure could burst the brake seals.

-Robert

Chocks, Robert, chocks. Use your dictionary.

Bob Gardner

"Robert M. Gary" wrote in message
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On Dec 27, 1:55 pm, wrote:

So it doesn't roll away in the wind all on it's own with no one on board?

Or, if they were expecting to tow it in the immediate future, where were
the chocks to make sure it doesn't roll away in the wind all on it's own
until they got around to towing it?

While its possible that someone does it, I'm not aware of any operator
that sets the brake on aircraft when its not occupied. Usually chalks
work just fine and are easier to move when you need to tow. In smaller
aircraft there are other reasons to avoid setting the brake, like
changes in outside pressure could burst the brake seals.

-Robert

Robert M. Gary wrote:
On Dec 27, 1:55 pm, wrote:

So it doesn't roll away in the wind all on it's own with no one on board?

Or, if they were expecting to tow it in the immediate future, where were
the chocks to make sure it doesn't roll away in the wind all on it's own
until they got around to towing it?

While its possible that someone does it, I'm not aware of any operator
that sets the brake on aircraft when its not occupied. Usually chalks
work just fine and are easier to move when you need to tow. In smaller
aircraft there are other reasons to avoid setting the brake, like
changes in outside pressure could burst the brake seals.

Are chalks anything like chocks?

Matt

Robert M. Gary wrote:

While its possible that someone does it, I'm not aware of any operator
that sets the brake on aircraft when its not occupied. Usually chalks
work just fine and are easier to move when you need to tow. In smaller
aircraft there are other reasons to avoid setting the brake, like
changes in outside pressure could burst the brake seals.

Since the biggest change in outside pressure that is likely to happen
is on the order of a pound and the working pressure in brakes is at
least an order of magnitude greater than that, I find it highly unlikely.

Perhaps if one were to land after extended flight at 10,000 feet at
Tucson in the middle of summer, the drastic temperature change might
have an effect, but I doubt it.

I've heard this many times and yet can imagine no situation other than
maybe leaving the brakes on for months at a time where it would do anything.

Any wrenches out there with real experiance feel free to contridict.


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Jim Pennino

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"Robert M. Gary" wrote in
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On Dec 27, 1:55*pm, wrote:

So it doesn't roll away in the wind all on it's own with no one on
board?

Or, if they were expecting to tow it in the immediate future, where
were the chocks to make sure it doesn't roll away in the wind all on
it's own until they got around to towing it?

While its possible that someone does it, I'm not aware of any operator
that sets the brake on aircraft when its not occupied.


We do. Our's are pretty lightly stressed, though.


Usually chalks
work just fine and are easier to move when you need to tow. In smaller
aircraft there are other reasons to avoid setting the brake, like
changes in outside pressure could burst the brake seals.

Mmm, doubt that.

The best reason I can think of for not relying on the parking brake in a
wind is that they are not very reliable. Schwinn could make a better
arrangement than you see on most Cessnas, for instance.
Brakes are next to useless in very high winds anyway. After all, if the
wing is being lifted....

Bertie