I'd never seen this before

Mxsmanic wrote in
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Ron Wanttaja writes:

The International Space Station *isn't* in outer space? Better tell
NASA....

They already know, since they have to boost it periodically in order
to compensate for drag from the atmosphere.

Nope


Bertie

writes:

The International Space Station orbits at about 400 km; the official
definition of outer space is 100 km.

Which "official" definition did you have in mind?

Ron Wanttaja writes:

Hay-el, if you use that as a criteria, the Shuttle doesn't go into outer space,
either. You get measurable atmospheric drag out to 1000 km or more.

Yes.

The internationally-agreed boundary for space starts is at 100 km.

100 km above the surface of the sun is still a pretty wild place. Which
international agreement did you have in mind?

Mxsmanic wrote in
:

writes:

The International Space Station orbits at about 400 km; the official
definition of outer space is 100 km.

Which "official" definition did you have in mind?


I think he said the definition that says that outer space is 100 km.

Bertie

Mxsmanic wrote in
:

Ron Wanttaja writes:

Hay-el, if you use that as a criteria, the Shuttle doesn't go into
outer space, either. You get measurable atmospheric drag out to 1000
km or more.

Yes.

The internationally-agreed boundary for space starts is at 100 km.

100 km above the surface of the sun is still a pretty wild place.
Which international agreement did you have in mind?

Apparently the one that says outer space is 100 km up.


Bertie

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
...
Ron Wanttaja writes:

Hay-el, if you use that as a criteria, the Shuttle doesn't go into outer space,
either. You get measurable atmospheric drag out to 1000 km or more.

Yes.

The internationally-agreed boundary for space starts is at 100 km.

100 km above the surface of the sun is still a pretty wild place. Which
international agreement did you have in mind?

If your familiarity with Wikipedia extended beyond authoring articles on flypaper and
being rejected for editor status, you'd know the definition as set by the Fédération
Aéronautique Internationale:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karman_line

Hi,

In article ,
Bertie the wrote:
Well, even at middling altitudes I find it hard to tell the altitude of
other airplanes.

I read somewhere that if the other plane appears above the horizon, it's
above you. Similarly, if it appears below the horizon, it's below you.

Obviously this will change depending on whether you're climbing or
descending, but as a general rule it sounds like it could make sense.

Haven't really had the chance to test it myself since I read it though.

Andy

Andy Hawkins wrote in
:

Hi,

In article ,
Bertie the wrote:
Well, even at middling altitudes I find it hard to tell the altitude
of other airplanes.

I read somewhere that if the other plane appears above the horizon,
it's above you. Similarly, if it appears below the horizon, it's below
you.

Obviously this will change depending on whether you're climbing or
descending, but as a general rule it sounds like it could make sense.

Haven't really had the chance to test it myself since I read it
though.


Well, we often can't see the horizon, suppose that;s the difficulty. It's
easier low down, though. Lots easier.

Bertie

"John Mazor" wrote in
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"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
...
Ron Wanttaja writes:

Hay-el, if you use that as a criteria, the Shuttle doesn't go into
outer space, either. You get measurable atmospheric drag out to
1000 km or more.

Yes.

The internationally-agreed boundary for space starts is at 100 km.

100 km above the surface of the sun is still a pretty wild place.
Which international agreement did you have in mind?

If your familiarity with Wikipedia extended beyond authoring articles
on flypaper and being rejected for editor status, you'd know the
definition as set by the Fédération Aéronautique Internationale:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karman_line





Bwawhawhahwhahwh!

You're kidding about the flypaper, right?

Berie

"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
.. .
"John Mazor" wrote in
news:rWPej.1335$v_4.524@trnddc03:


"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
...
Ron Wanttaja writes:

Hay-el, if you use that as a criteria, the Shuttle doesn't go into
outer space, either. You get measurable atmospheric drag out to
1000 km or more.

Yes.

The internationally-agreed boundary for space starts is at 100 km.

100 km above the surface of the sun is still a pretty wild place.
Which international agreement did you have in mind?

If your familiarity with Wikipedia extended beyond authoring articles
on flypaper and being rejected for editor status, you'd know the
definition as set by the Fédération Aéronautique Internationale:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karman_line

Bwawhawhahwhahwh!

You're kidding about the flypaper, right?

Nope.

And it was a half-ass effort at that. He didn't even bother using his photographic
"talents" to contribute an original pic of flypaper, he just linked to an existing generic
wiki shot.