Cessna's response to negative feedback on Skycatcher being builtin China

"NW_Pilot" wrote

Prisons should be run by government not by private enterprise!!

What does it matter where they are put, if they were not convicted by
private enterprise.

Prisoners have it way too easy, as it is. Punishment for crime is losing
the freedom that other citizens have. That is the way it is supposed to
work.

If you were in jail, would you rather sit in your cell, bored out of your
skull, or do something like work, even for free, even if you had to pay to
work?

I know my answer would be to work. The day passes much more quickly when
you are occupied.

Sorry, but you are way off base on this one. Prisoners in the US are there
for good reason, and most all are multiple offenders, or else major felony
offenders. That is not the case in China. Far, far from it.
--
Jim in NC

"NW_Pilot" wrote in message
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I cannot wait for the Chinese Clones like they did with Chevy Spark and is
clone the Chery QQ and now a few other vehicles and the all so popular
Harley Davidson.

Current Clones,
Sing SUV - Nissan X-Trail
Hongda - Honda
Shuanghuan Motors - Honda
GreatWall Motors - Toyota
Geely Merie - Toyota and Mercedes

How any company with a product they want to keep their product can look
past that, I don't understand.

It is the only thing you can count on coming out of China. Clones.

Cessna would have done much better getting it built in Mexico, or about
anywhere else. Nobody has the lack of moral and legal convictions against
copying intellectual material that China has. Nobody even comes close.
--
Jim in NC

Gig601XLBuilder,

I won't even get into the difference in why people are in prison in the
US as opposed to why they are in involuntary servitude in China but
the difference is significant.


Except when you count Gitmo.

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

NW_Pilot wrote:
You may want to look "research" again there are a handfull of private
prisons that require an inmate to be an Organ Donor. Not legal in
state/federal run facilities only prtivate in a select few states that allow
it. Go google it....


No you Google it and post the result. If you make the claim it's up to
you to back it up.

Thomas Borchert wrote:
Gig601XLBuilder,

I won't even get into the difference in why people are in prison in the
US as opposed to why they are in involuntary servitude in China but
the difference is significant.


Except when you count Gitmo.


Gitmo isn't a US prison. It is a holding are for illegal enemy combatants.

"NW_Pilot" wrote in message
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You may want to look "research" again there are a handfull of private prisons that
require an inmate to be an Organ Donor. Not legal in state/federal run facilities only
prtivate in a select few states that allow it. Go google it....

I did. Didn't see anything about forced organ donations by prisoners in the U.S. Got a
URL to document forced organ donation here? After all the revelations about prisoner
abuses in the past such as the drug experiments and that syphillus study, it's hard to
imagine that organ donations (involuntary or otherwise) would go totally unnoted in the
media and the Internet.

Also look here!!! wonder how much the prison/industrial complex would gain....

http://www.wltx.com/news/story.aspx?storyid=47680

1. It's a bill to allow voluntary donations, not forced ones.

2. It's only in SC.

3. There's absolutely nothing there about "how much the prison/industrial complex would
gain".

4. The bill is so controversial and repugnant (not to mention in violation of federal
law) that it was stripped from a larger bill offering other considerations to prisoners,
and is bottled up in committee. My guess is that it will die there.

The key word here is "forced". Prisoners in China usually (or more likely, always) don't
have a choice. And we certainly don't have an ongoing cottage industry of organ farming
in our prisons the way they do in China.

Jim Logajan wrote:

Gig601XLBuilder wrote:
http://www.cessnaskycatcher.com/home/124.html

"... Cessna needs to deliver up to 700 SkyCatchers each year."

Interesting number - appears to be comparable to the number of RV-7 kits
that Van's Aircraft claims to ship per year (Van's magazine ads say "Two
RV-7 kits leave Van's aircraft every day to builders all over the world.")

Of course the specs for the RV-7 outclass the SkyCatcher by a wide margin.
And you need to add in RV-4, RV-8, RV-9, RV-10 and maybe even -12
kits.

Only the 12 may be comparable to the Skycatcher.

Ron Lee

"Gig601XLBuilder" wrote in message
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NW_Pilot wrote:
You may want to look "research" again there are a handfull of private
prisons that require an inmate to be an Organ Donor. Not legal in
state/federal run facilities only prtivate in a select few states that
allow it. Go google it....


No you Google it and post the result. If you make the claim it's up to you
to back it up.

Yea, its's under "presumed/Implied Consent" organ donation laws for
Prisoners and Detainees! where you must opt-out!!!

Morgans wrote:
Sorry, but you are way off base on this one. Prisoners in the US are there
for good reason, and most all are multiple offenders, or else major felony
offenders.

Or due to police or prosecutorial misconduct. Or in knee-jerk response
to personal habits which other civilized nations find perfectly acceptable.

"NW_Pilot" wrote in message
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"Gig601XLBuilder" wrote in message
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NW_Pilot wrote:
You may want to look "research" again there are a handfull of private prisons that
require an inmate to be an Organ Donor. Not legal in state/federal run facilities only
prtivate in a select few states that allow it. Go google it....

No you Google it and post the result. If you make the claim it's up to you to back it
up.

Yea, its's under "presumed/Implied Consent" organ donation laws for Prisoners and
Detainees! where you must opt-out!!!

That's for donating organs from the recently deceased, as opposed to live people.

The issue at hand is forcibly harvesting organs from prisoners. They do that in China.
They don't do it here.