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This day in 1944: Hunger, frostbite, gangrene



 
 
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Old December 26th 03, 03:02 AM
John Keeney
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"BUFDRVR" wrote in message
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To be fair it seems to have been mainly Polish American units
that did this.


Since no American units have ever been assembled based on ethnicity (with

Negro
units being the obvious exception), I find your above statement

ridiculous.

Well, the Nessi(sp?, Japanese Americans) in WWII pretty much had their
own unit. Then, back as far as the Civil War and possibly as late as the
Spanish American War, some units assembled themselves in a manner
that could be considered ethnic.


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Old December 26th 03, 03:30 AM
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Moramarth wrote in message ...
We were lucky that we were able to repatriate the Argentineans so
quickly after the cessation of hostilities in the Falklands


Not all were so lucky. Let us not forget that Argentine soldiers were
shot while attempting to surrender to British paratroops. Some of the
Paras said that they had no intention of taking prisoners.

This is well documented by former Royal Marine Commando Hugh McManners
in his book "The Scars of War". A disturbing contrast to the swill
spit out by the Ministry of Defence.
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Old December 26th 03, 01:15 PM
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Well, the Nessi(sp?, Japanese Americans) in WWII pretty much had their
own unit.


Good point, I had forgotten them.

Then, back as far as the Civil War and possibly as late as the
Spanish American War, some units assembled themselves in a manner
that could be considered ethnic.


During the Civil War, units were assembled in geographic location. Depending
on location, you could see a majority of the unit having the same ethnic
background, but this was not intentional. The practice was continued on a
smaller scale during WWI and nearly gone during WWII.


BUFDRVR

"Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if it harelips
everyone on Bear Creek"
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Old December 26th 03, 01:24 PM
BUFDRVR
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And a couple of Irish brigades in the ACW.

The Irish Brigades (New York had at least 3, the 69th, 88th and 140th) were
assembled from volunteers in predominantly Irish Neighborhoods. If you were a
German immigrant living in that neighborhood, and had no issue fighting beneath
a Shamrock Flag, you were free to join (and many did).


BUFDRVR

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everyone on Bear Creek"
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Old December 27th 03, 04:34 AM
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BUFDRVR ) wrote:
: To be fair it seems to have been mainly Polish American units
: that did this.

: Since no American units have ever been assembled based on ethnicity (with Negro
: units being the obvious exception), I find your above statement ridiculous.

How about the 442nd RCT/100th Bn.?

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Old December 27th 03, 08:29 AM
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latin american thunderbolt pilots?

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Old December 28th 03, 03:45 AM
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On Sat, 27 Dec 2003 17:29:42 +0900, Gernot Hassenpflug wrote:

latin american thunderbolt pilots?


Those were mostly fighting under their own countries' flags... with the aircraft
from their original squadrons (I'm thinking mainly of the Brazilians and
Mexicans).

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Old December 31st 03, 05:29 PM
Drazen Kramaric
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On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 09:31:37 -0000, "Keith Willshaw"
wrote:



There was no fire fight, the soldiers involved werent front line
infantry they were members of a fieeld artillery observation
battallion being transported by truck when they were surprised
by 1st SS Panzer . What happened next is simply that they adopted
their usual method of dealing with POW's as developed on the
eastern front and herded them into a field and shot them


It should be noted that both sides on Eastern front treated POWs
brutally. However, those who survived to reach POW camps had more
chance to survive in Soviet captivity than German one.

Nevertheless, what happened at Malmedy was probably no different from
what has happened at Biscari on Sicily where Americans shot Italian
POWs out of hand. The massacre was hushed up by Patton and Bradley. If
Americans were willing to treat their generals the way they treated
commanding officers of 6th Panzer Army for Malmedy both Patton and
Bradley with score of subordinate officers would have been lucky to
spend some time in Fort Leavenworth, KS.

What is tragic is that victorious powers from WW2 learnt nothing. When
their armies found themselves in similar conditions (Algeria, Vietnam)
like German security divisions massacres took place again and wherever
possible were hushed up.


Drax
 




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