Is this the death of GA

On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 10:39:04 -0800 (PST), Longworth
wrote:

On Feb 23, 9:41*am, "
wrote:
I had an airplane that I had to sacrifice for graduate school 4 years
ago. Now finish and looking to get back in the game, I find local
avgas prices in my area range from over $6 to over $7!!! (Up from
$2.30).

Have you tried the www.100ll.com site to find the cheapest avgas
price in your area?

It sounds like he's buying gas at Westchester or Teterboro. G

"HL" == Longworth writes:
HL For
HL us, the biggest flying expenses have always been maintenance
HL and upkeep.

A big reason why I'm embarking on building an RV-9A. Brand-new
airplane and I'll own the repairman's certificate.

--
"He has Van Gogh's ear for music."
-Billy Wilder

Bob Fry wrote:
"HL" == Longworth writes:
HL For
HL us, the biggest flying expenses have always been maintenance
HL and upkeep.

A big reason why I'm embarking on building an RV-9A. Brand-new
airplane and I'll own the repairman's certificate.

And for cheaper flying you can throttle back and get good miles per dollar
(well you can do that in any plane, but the RV series are pretty efficient
airframes).

I bought the RV-9A plans set but just haven't been able to commit to it.
(Still a bathroom and kitchen remodel to do first anyway!) The only other
low-wing homebuilt that I keep considering is the Arion Lightning.

And now today I heard Randy Schlitter say the Rans S-19 was designed for a
1475 lb gross. So if one didn't need to stay within the 1320 lb LSA limits,
its heavier than expected weight of 820 lbs need not be held against it. Of
course it still couldn't keep up with the RV-9A or Lightning, so it would
be an inferior cross country plane to those two on a speed basis.

But yeah, I think the future of GA is in smaller planes and of course
homebuilts.

On Feb 23, 8:41*am, "
wrote:
I had an airplane that I had to sacrifice for graduate school 4 years
ago. Now finish and looking to get back in the game, I find local
avgas prices in my area range from over $6 to over $7!!! (Up from
$2.30).

I know the price of gas has gone up but man, those increases have been
amplified in aviation. It looks like I am going to have to take up
sailboating instead.

I had an airplane that I had to sacrifice for graduate school 4 years
ago. Now finish and looking to get back in the game, I find local
avgas prices in my area range from over $6 to over $7!!! (Up from
$2.30).

Two words: Car gas.

Make sure your plane can run on it (most can), and make sure you live in a
state that doesn't pollute all of their gas with alcohol -- and flying can
still be affordable.

We have run 9000+ gallons of regular unleaded 87 octane car gas through our
home-made fuel truck (see it he
http://www.alexisparkinn.com/new_mighty_grape.htm ) into our airplanes, at a
savings of well over $1.00 (sometimes $2.00+) per gallon.

Do the math -- it'll pay for your truck and make flying less expensive.
AND, best of all, most planes run *better* on unleaded fuel. It's one of
very few win-win situations in aviation.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

On Feb 24, 9:09 am, "Jay Honeck" wrote:
I had an airplane that I had to sacrifice for graduate school 4 years
ago. Now finish and looking to get back in the game, I find local
avgas prices in my area range from over $6 to over $7!!! (Up from
$2.30).

Two words: Car gas.

Make sure your plane can run on it (most can), and make sure you live in a
state that doesn't pollute all of their gas with alcohol -- and flying can
still be affordable.

We have run 9000+ gallons of regular unleaded 87 octane car gas through our
home-made fuel truck (see it hehttp://www.alexisparkinn.com/new_mighty_grape.htm) into our airplanes, at a
savings of well over $1.00 (sometimes $2.00+) per gallon.

Do the math -- it'll pay for your truck and make flying less expensive.
AND, best of all, most planes run *better* on unleaded fuel. It's one of
very few win-win situations in aviation.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Pretty cool!

Any club or FBO I've been in forbid refueling in the hangar.

I never dug deep to find out why. I can only suppose they didn't want
to lose an airplane AND a building.

Dan

" wrote in
:

On Feb 24, 9:09 am, "Jay Honeck" wrote:
I had an airplane that I had to sacrifice for graduate school 4
years
ago. Now finish and looking to get back in the game, I find local
avgas prices in my area range from over $6 to over $7!!! (Up from
$2.30).

Two words: Car gas.

Make sure your plane can run on it (most can), and make sure you live
in a state that doesn't pollute all of their gas with alcohol -- and
flying can still be affordable.

We have run 9000+ gallons of regular unleaded 87 octane car gas
through our home-made fuel truck (see it
hehttp://www.alexisparkinn.com/new_mighty_grape.htm) into our
airplanes, at a savings of well over $1.00 (sometimes $2.00+) per
gallon.

Do the math -- it'll pay for your truck and make flying less
expensive. AND, best of all, most planes run *better* on unleaded
fuel. It's one of very few win-win situations in aviation.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Pretty cool!

Any club or FBO I've been in forbid refueling in the hangar.

I never dug deep to find out why. I can only suppose they didn't want
to lose an airplane AND a building.

Damned safety nuts.


Bertie

On Feb 24, 9:30 am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:


I never dug deep to find out why. I can only suppose they didn't want
to lose an airplane AND a building.

Damned safety nuts.

Bertie

yeah..They mess up all the fun!!!!

--

wrote in message
...
On Feb 24, 9:09 am, "Jay Honeck" wrote:
I had an airplane that I had to sacrifice for graduate school 4 years
ago. Now finish and looking to get back in the game, I find local
avgas prices in my area range from over $6 to over $7!!! (Up from
$2.30).

Two words: Car gas.

Make sure your plane can run on it (most can), and make sure you live in
a
state that doesn't pollute all of their gas with alcohol -- and flying
can
still be affordable.

We have run 9000+ gallons of regular unleaded 87 octane car gas through
our
home-made fuel truck (see it
hehttp://www.alexisparkinn.com/new_mighty_grape.htm) into our airplanes,
at a
savings of well over $1.00 (sometimes $2.00+) per gallon.

Do the math -- it'll pay for your truck and make flying less expensive.
AND, best of all, most planes run *better* on unleaded fuel. It's one
of
very few win-win situations in aviation.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Pretty cool!

Any club or FBO I've been in forbid refueling in the hangar.

I never dug deep to find out why. I can only suppose they didn't want
to lose an airplane AND a building.

Dan

That's the rule here, too. We can have it parked right in front of the
hangar but no part of the airplane can be across the door threshold. I
assume it is for the reason you state.

--
*H. Allen Smith*
WACO - We are all here, because we are not all there.

I never dug deep to find out why. I can only suppose they didn't want
to lose an airplane AND a building.

That's the rule here, too. We can have it parked right in front of the
hangar but no part of the airplane can be across the door threshold. I
assume it is for the reason you state.

Our FBO routinely fuels owner's aircraft in their hangars. Always has.

Ten years ago, when we first moved into a hangar, we would return from a
flight, put the plane away, and flip a little red flapper up on the door.
Next time we came to the airport, the flapper was down, the plane was fully
fueled, and we'd get a bill at the end of the month. God, I miss those
days...

I think gas was, like, $1.74 per gallon -- and we bitched about it!
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"