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Keith Willshaw wrote:
"nice guy" wrote in message ... poor intelligence from the dem administration The democratic party was not responsible for intelligence gathering as I recall, however the base commanders had been sent warnings that clearly stated that war was imminent. Indeed the message sent by Admiral Stark to Admiral Kimmel and General Short on November 27 began "This dispatch is to be considered a war warning.... Negotiations with Japan looking toward stabilization of conditions in the Pacific have ceased and an aggressive move by Japan is expected within the next few days...Execute appropriate defensive deployment preparatory to carrying out the tasks assigned in WPL 46 " Keith Ala 911 , Hawaii was not seen as the target. Thats why we deployed planes to Midway & Wake and was sending reinforcements to the Phillipines like the PT boats loaded to go to MTB squadron 3. The Intel was all hot about movements toward Malaya. Thus, the Brits put Force Z out to Sea from Singapore. Stop trying to refight the battle. We lost, period end of story! |
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"Tiger" wrote in message ... Keith Willshaw wrote: If I launched a attack this Morning in 2004 on Norfolk, VA how prepared would they be? About the same..... Oceania NAS might scramble jets. Most ships in port would not be ready to steam out. No torpedo nets, Live ammo mostly in the magazines, lots of guys on shore. My subs could launch cruise missles and sink most of the fleet today beter than a flock of Vals & Kates. The difference being the commanders at Pearl Harbor had been sent a message from Washington that began 'This dispatch is to be considered a war warning.' Keith |
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"Tiger" wrote in message ... Keith Willshaw wrote: Ala 911 , Hawaii was not seen as the target. Thats why we deployed planes to Midway & Wake and was sending reinforcements to the Phillipines like the PT boats loaded to go to MTB squadron 3. The Intel was all hot about movements toward Malaya. Thus, the Brits put Force Z out to Sea from Singapore. Stop trying to refight the battle. There's a difference between refighting the battle and analysing the errors made. Nothing could have prevented the attack BUT the fleet anchorage could and should have been better prepared. We lost, period end of story! In strategic terms it was at best a pyhrric vicotry for the IJN PS please dont post using HTML Keith |
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Tiger wrote:
Why Are we refighting Pearl Harbor????? Is this "Final Conflict?" Is the Nimtz going to travel through a time portal so VF 84 can splash Zeros again????? I fear that it might be repeated with a Chinese ballistic missile, guided by the joint European/Chinese GALILEO satellite radio navigation system, fired into the base of the forward deployed American fleet. -HJC |
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Keith Willshaw wrote:
"Tiger" wrote in message If I launched a attack this Morning in 2004 on Norfolk, VA how prepared would they be? About the same..... Oceania NAS might scramble jets. Most ships in port would not be ready to steam out. No torpedo nets, Live ammo mostly in the magazines, lots of guys on shore. My subs could launch cruise missles and sink most of the fleet today beter than a flock of Vals & Kates. The difference being the commanders at Pearl Harbor had been sent a message from Washington that began 'This dispatch is to be considered a war warning.' That's like saying "Bin Laden determined to strike in US" without giving the time, place or nature of the attack. They assumed sabotage and they prepared for their own assumptions. -HJC |
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I meant to ask if "Purple" was an American or Japanese name for the code I
mentioned! Sorry, my bad! |
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DBurch7672 wrote: I meant to ask if "Purple" was an American or Japanese name for the code I mentioned! Sorry, my bad! American,, |
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