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Jake Donovan wrote:
2- The F22 is officially headed to the reserves and ANG as soon as the F35 comes on line. Kind of turns on the lights as to the operating parameters of the 22 vs the 35. I'd like to see the basis for that. But in any case, rememeber that the Guard and Reserves no longer fly second-rate aircraft handed down from the active force. They fly the same aircraft types for the most part, and have the same basic missions. I'd be very surprised indeed if the F-22 is scheduled to be withdrawn from the active force at that time. -- Tom Schoene Replace "invalid" with "net" to e-mail "If brave men and women never died, there would be nothing special about bravery." -- Andy Rooney (attributed) |
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R. David Steele wrote:
What about the S-3 Viking folks? BRBR What happened to the program to make the S-3 an SIGINT platform? And you say other people "don't keep up." The ES-3 was fielded in 1993, then retired in 1999. The S-3B is going away over the next couple of years. -- Tom Schoene Replace "invalid" with "net" to e-mail "If brave men and women never died, there would be nothing special about bravery." -- Andy Rooney (attributed) |
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R. David Steele wrote:
I am not a fan of idea of taking an airliner design and making it a cargo plane. For the vast majority of the air freight business, airliner designs work very well indeed. Very few users need the short-field or oversized cargo capacity of a BC-17X. A 747-400 Freighter carries more cargo, cheaper, than a military-derived cargo plane; Boeing only offers the BC-17X for a very specific (small) niche market. -- Tom Schoene Replace "invalid" with "net" to e-mail "If brave men and women never died, there would be nothing special about bravery." -- Andy Rooney (attributed) |
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Tom,
I really cant go much further than what I said, but look at the B1B. I can paraphrase Aviation Week - The procurement #s of Raptors have been lowered drastically not because of budget constraints, but the F35 will be replacing them as soon as they are available. I do agree with you on the AF ANG and Reserves flying very new and up to date platforms unlike the days of old. Jake "Thomas Schoene" wrote in message ink.net... Jake Donovan wrote: 2- The F22 is officially headed to the reserves and ANG as soon as the F35 comes on line. Kind of turns on the lights as to the operating parameters of the 22 vs the 35. I'd like to see the basis for that. But in any case, rememeber that the Guard and Reserves no longer fly second-rate aircraft handed down from the active force. They fly the same aircraft types for the most part, and have the same basic missions. I'd be very surprised indeed if the F-22 is scheduled to be withdrawn from the active force at that time. -- Tom Schoene Replace "invalid" with "net" to e-mail "If brave men and women never died, there would be nothing special about bravery." -- Andy Rooney (attributed) |
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R. David Steele wrote:
Remember that we are planning for a war with China by the end of the decade. Are you planning to fight them all yourself or do you have a couple of buddies lined up to help ? Keith Ok, ok!!! Not everyone keeps up with various policies and DoD planning. the current chairman of the Joint Chiefs, Gen Myers, was picked to plan for this potential war. Actually, you're the one who seems out of touch. The Joint Staff plans for all sorts of wars all the time. But Presidents don't pick Chairmen of the JCS to plan any particular wars. Indeed, the Chairman's job is mostly to supervise current ops; the Staff does long-term planning regardless of who is in charge. China has let it be known, there are a number of papers coming out of their post graduate officers school, that they plan to challenge us for control of the far east. That means control over India, most of SE Asia (down to Australia), Japan, the Philippines and Siberia. China's policy appears to be primarily focussed on ensuring that no one else interfrres with their own territory. Also China has sent it agents off its soil as it never has in 5000 years. They now run the Panama Canal. Have bases all throughout the Caribbean. Now own a port (former naval base) in San Diego. And they have extensive operations all throughout North Africa. Oh, good grief. China has commercial intereasts worldwide, yes. But there's no evidence that running port operations in Panama (NOT running the Canal proper, BTW) translates into any sort of aggressive intent. INdeed, the company that runs those ops is a Hong Kong-based multinational, not controlled by the Chinese government as the fearmongers would have you believe. -- Tom Schoene Replace "invalid" with "net" to e-mail "If brave men and women never died, there would be nothing special about bravery." -- Andy Rooney (attributed) |
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On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 23:31:30 GMT, R. David Steele
wrote: What happened to the program to make the S-3 an SIGINT platform? You're only a decade behind. ES-3 was deployed a decade ago, retired 5 years ago. -- Andrew Toppan --- --- "I speak only for myself" "Haze Gray & Underway" - Naval History, DANFS, World Navies Today, Photo Features, Military FAQs, and more - http://www.hazegray.org/ |
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On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 19:05:43 -0600, "Jake Donovan"
wrote: lowered drastically not because of budget constraints, but the F35 will be replacing them as soon as they are available. You're making claims contrary to the program of record and all published information, but providing no evidence to support said claims. Thus, you're not credible. -- Andrew Toppan --- --- "I speak only for myself" "Haze Gray & Underway" - Naval History, DANFS, World Navies Today, Photo Features, Military FAQs, and more - http://www.hazegray.org/ |
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On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 23:08:27 GMT, R. David Steele
wrote: I am not a fan of idea of taking an airliner design and making it a cargo plane. Virtually every civilian cargo aircraft is exactly that. -- Andrew Toppan --- --- "I speak only for myself" "Haze Gray & Underway" - Naval History, DANFS, World Navies Today, Photo Features, Military FAQs, and more - http://www.hazegray.org/ |
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"R. David Steele" wrote in message ... | | The F-35 has a chance of being more successful than the F-22 based |solely on | | it being post '96 Ada | | | |Ada-95. Like a lot of the F-22 software, which got recoded because it | |was easier to support. Which is why a good part of the F-35 software is | |based on the F-22 software... | | I thought that we had moved beyond ADA? | |How? Had we not stopped programming in ADA? C++ or something has replaced it? Good lord, ADA is like PL1. The Ada-95 release does not cause older software to be made good. |
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Will these outfits be VQF / VPF? g
-- Mike Kanze "Just because you do not take an interest in politics doesn't mean politics won't take an interest in you." - Pericles (430 B.C.) "Pechs1" wrote in message ... Remember that we are planning for a war with China by the end of the decade. What is the ability of the Chinese aircraft. BRBR Just let loose all the VQ and VP guys flying P-3s, they can kick their ass, already have,,, P. C. Chisholm CDR, USN(ret.) Old Phart Phormer Phantom, Turkey, Viper, Scooter and Combat Buckeye Phlyer |
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