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Experimentals To Be Banned To Rural Airports?
jeremy wrote in
: John wrote: PS. We have laws about proper vehicle operation already, we don't need new laws that call out specific activiries. Enforce what we have already Do not ever think of driving in Europe. let's qualify that. We're talking Germany and Gemrany wannabes here. In most countries you will be stopped if spotted eating, drinking, talking on the phone, or doing anything that is not driving. On the autobahn at speed, you may be cautioned for not having both hands on the steering wheel. You can fail your driving test by talking, failing to check your mirrors once a minute or resting your elbows on the door. You will get tickets for failing to signal a lane change, cruising in the fast lane, overtaking on the inside, running out of washer fluid, not having a spare tyre, car body damage, misaligned headlights, and not having your lights on if your wipers are running. Snort! Ever drive in Italy? They don't believe in seatbelts. It means you haven't got confidence in your driving and makes you more likely to have an accident. A quick peek at the cars going by there will reveal a huge percentage of people not bothering with them. The further south you go the fewer wear them. (Padanians, are, after all, wannabe germans) You can nearly tell your lattitude by the percentage of non wearers. Same is roughtly true for france and spain. And then, OTOH, you can drive as fast as you like just about anywhere but England. Bertie |
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"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message ... Snort! Ever drive in Italy? They don't believe in seatbelts. It means you haven't got confidence in your driving and makes you more likely to have an accident. A quick peek at the cars going by there will reveal a huge percentage of people not bothering with them. The further south you go the fewer wear them. (Padanians, are, after all, wannabe germans) You can nearly tell your lattitude by the percentage of non wearers. Same is roughtly true for france and spain. And then, OTOH, you can drive as fast as you like just about anywhere but England. Bertie Like you have ever been there looserboi. |
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jeremy wrote in
: Bertie the Bunyip wrote: Snort! Ever drive in Italy? They don't believe in seatbelts. It means you haven't got confidence in your driving and makes you more likely to have an accident. A quick peek at the cars going by there will reveal a huge percentage of people not bothering with them. The further south you go the fewer wear them. (Padanians, are, after all, wannabe germans) You can nearly tell your lattitude by the percentage of non wearers. Same is roughtly true for france and spain. I drive all over the Northern hemisphere and usually get caught in Europe by bad habits learned elsewhere. Turning on a red light always catches me, as does the difference in traffic light sequence. I have to watch myself after time in Panama, as after midnight traffic lights are advisory only. I have DLs for USA, and most of the EU and the test here is a joke. The seatbelt issue is of no consequence to many cops in Italy, as they consider it your funeral, but they will pop you for overtaking without signaling. Maybe in the north... I've driven a good bit in Italy and as far as I can tell, th eonly rule is to keep your foot planted and beep a lot. Hand signals take both hands, of course. Hand free phones have freed up the italians to talk while driving of course. Can't talk without your hands.. Bertie |
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"Ramsey" @##@.^net wrote in :
"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message ... Snort! Ever drive in Italy? They don't believe in seatbelts. It means you haven't got confidence in your driving and makes you more likely to have an accident. A quick peek at the cars going by there will reveal a huge percentage of people not bothering with them. The further south you go the fewer wear them. (Padanians, are, after all, wannabe germans) You can nearly tell your lattitude by the percentage of non wearers. Same is roughtly true for france and spain. And then, OTOH, you can drive as fast as you like just about anywhere but England. Bertie Like you have ever been there looserboi. Was there monday and will be there tomorrow evening again... Day after, I'll be in Italy.. Bertie |
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"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message ... Was there monday and will be there tomorrow evening again... Day after, I'll be in Italy.. Yeah, prove it liarboi. |
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"Ramsey" @##@.^net wrote in message
... "Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message ... Was there monday and will be there tomorrow evening again... Day after, I'll be in Italy.. Yeah, prove it liarboi. You still need to prove you're anything more than a waste of bandwidth. |
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BT wrote:
Sadly another airplane has crashed in the vicinity of the North Las Vegas airport. A Piper Navajo departed VGT and shortly after departure he called the tower that he was returning with a rough running engine. The pilot was solo, no pax. Witnesses on the ground reported the aircraft was on fire and fire crews were responding to meet the aircraft at the airport when it crashed short of the runway in a local neighborhood. There were no fatalities to people on the ground. BT "T. "Tim" Timothy Haag aka HyoogeUmp56" wrote in message ... http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archives/avflash/1199-full.html#198676 Was that an "experimental" Navajo? Didn't think so. Looks like certified airplanes crash too. |
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"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
... Bob F. writes: First an "experimental" aircraft in aviation talk is just another classification. The characteristics may be well known and just doesn't fit into any other class. My impression is that many aircraft are called experimental in order to get around certain troublesome regulations. And my impression was that you were talking about an aircraft that was unsafe for flight. Secondly, I have personally flown a number of experimental Boeing aircraft into LAX when I worked for the flight test group there. I believe B747-100 s/n 1 is still classified as experimental. And I flew B401, 2 and 3 (the first 3 747-400 designated a/c). They too were classified as experimental and flew into a lot of large airports with heavy population. How many hours had they flown elsewhere before they visited those large airports? I don't know exactly, in the case I cited, dozens probably. Everett (Payne Field), North of Boeing field was built for 747 development because manufacturing and test facilities were too small and there was no place to expand since the city was built tightly around the airport. Many maiden flight took place at Boeing Field and nearby Renton (same situation). It was a matter of conveniences that Everett was used for their latter flights and as far as I know, there was never a crash in the neighborhood. Early maiden flight aircraft actually have a very good statistical record. -- Regards, Bob F. |
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"Mike" wrote in message newsyZtk.37$jE1.12@trnddc03... "Ramsey" @##@.^net wrote in message ... "Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message ... Was there monday and will be there tomorrow evening again... Day after, I'll be in Italy.. Yeah, prove it liarboi. You still need to prove you're anything more than a waste of bandwidth. Changing the subject there aincha Mikey Mouth. Just like Mx. |
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In article tNRtk.1134$w51.346@trnddc01, "Mike" wrote:
Nobody wants to give up their "right" to drive with a cell phone, ignore speed limits, run stop lights, etc. even though such activity puts other people at risk. "drive with a cell phone" .... ohmygawd. Hey, what about drive with one of those GPS thingies, or changing CDs or scanning thru XM radio or....? Maybe we should require a sterile car so that nothing, absolutely nothing can distract the driver. (yep - this crusade about talking on a cellphone is a hot button for me). Crusade all you want. it isn't my crusade, the crusade against cellphones is being waged by people who don't understand how to analysis risk. Talking on the phone while driving increases risk of having a serious accident by 4-5 times. hmmm, if your claim of a 4-5x time greater risk were true, why hasn't the accident rate increased dramatically during the time period when cellphone usage has exploded? In fact, the accident rate has remained flat or decreased slightly (if we believe the NTHSA) But you prove my point beautifully. You don't understand proofs. People don't really give a rat's arse about being safer if it inconvieniences them, even if the inconvienience is slight. Then why do people wear motorcycle helmets? and leather jackets or equivalent protective clothing when riding? Talk about inconvenience. Now, if you wanted to make the point that people don't care about the inconvenience of OTHERS as long as it appears that they are trying to help them even when there is no actual evidence to support the help being effective.... -- Bob Noel (goodness, please trim replies!!!) |
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