Adventures in TSA land

On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 13:44:39 -0700, "David Brooks"
wrote:

"Michael" wrote in message
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Today is October 19, and...

a *great* summary of the TSA IFR, but:

snip

The Category 3 rule says "A flight school may not provide training... to a
*candidate*... unless...".

The Category 4 rule (which covers BFRs) says "Prior to beginning recurrent
training for a *candidate*..."


Not sure I understand that. A BFR is not recurrent training.
It is a flight review.


Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com
-- David Brooks

"NW_PILOT" wrote in message ...
"Newps" wrote in message
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TD wrote:

"NW_PILOT" wrote in message
news:pridnR14gcOiMOjcRVn-

Until it is declared a threat by our goverment and we occupy it then
take it
over.


Please take us over. My earnings would double and I would actually be
able to afford to buy a new plane!!

And that's just by using real money, not that stuff you use now.



Yep you call your money funny names like loony's & toony's! Canada is the
only place I have seen ware you have to stick in a loony to get a shopping
cart. You get the money back when you return the shopping cart. That was in
estavan not sure if it happens anyplace else in Canada.

It happens in most parts of the developed world, ie Europe ;-)
Before anybody starts about left-wing socialist commie consparicies go
to
your supermarket manager and ask him/her what those shopping carts
cost them annually. You would be suprised, no suprise is who is paying
for this.
It is you, the customer.
Other advanteges:
-Enough carts around, everybody returns them
-Less dents and scratches in ones car.

-Kees

"Roger" wrote in message
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No, that one is true. Kerry claims to be a hunter and pro gun rights,
but his voting record is decidedly anti-gun.

Again, you are oversimplifying the issue, labeling as "anti-gun" anyone who
doesn't approve of carte-blanche access to guns. "False" was correct.

Then there is the Devil you know Vs the Devil you don't. :-))

Well, I'm not a big fan of that philosophy. I'd rather trade in my devils
until I get one I can live with, since the ones I know aren't doing me any
good.

Bush's fundamentalism, Born again Christian stance scares me

Bush claims to be United Methodist, which is hardly a "born again" or
"fundamentalist" version of Christianity. That said, he's a pretty lame
United Methodist and I'd agree that, while I doubt he'd agree, his attitudes
better mirror the fundamentalists.

Frankly, I'd think it'd be pretty obvious by now that fundamentalism, of any
sort, is no way to run things. It boggles my mind why so many people in the
US think that fundamentalist Christianity is a fine thing on which to base
our government, but at the same time are so critical of fundamentalist
Muslims.

Pete

"Roger" wrote in message
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Man oh man, but I'd like to see that here in the US. Maybe it'd cure
a few of those who are too lazy to even put the carts in the rack out
in the parking lot.

If it didn't cure it, at least you and I could make a pretty penny putting
the carts back where they go.

I gave up thinking there were ANY other intelligent people in my
neighborhood after seeing one too many people leave the cart not *ten feet*
from the proper place. I saw one woman push a cart up over a curb and onto
a grass island, walking farther and investing greater effort than she would
have had she simply put the cart in the cart return area (which was only 15
or 20 feet from her car).

Pete

"Peter Duniho" wrote in message
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"Roger" wrote in message
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Man oh man, but I'd like to see that here in the US. Maybe it'd cure
a few of those who are too lazy to even put the carts in the rack out
in the parking lot.

If it didn't cure it, at least you and I could make a pretty penny putting
the carts back where they go.

I gave up thinking there were ANY other intelligent people in my
neighborhood after seeing one too many people leave the cart not *ten
feet*
from the proper place. I saw one woman push a cart up over a curb and
onto
a grass island, walking farther and investing greater effort than she
would
have had she simply put the cart in the cart return area (which was only
15
or 20 feet from her car).

Pete



I see that happen all the time, It gives the cart collectors excellent job
security. I usually am to lazy to push my own cart or cart's back to the
car. When the bag boy/girl asks you want help out I say sure give him/her a
tip if he/she don't break the eggs or squish the bread while loading them in
the car and he/she usually takes care of the cart at the same time.

Roger wrote in message

Bush's fundamentalism, Born again Christian stance scares me

Scares me too.


as does
Kerry's anti-gun, ...stance.

Roger, this confuses me, and many others I am sure both in the US and
especially outside. Why do many americans view anti-gun laws as
frightening? Coming from a place where we have significant gun
control mechanisms, which in my layman`s view, seems to "work"
controlling violent crime, why would you favor upholding the 2nd
ammendment instead of supporting gun control, which many if not all
law enforcement agencies recommend strengthening?

Tien

why would you favor upholding the 2nd
ammendment instead of supporting gun control, which many if not all
law enforcement agencies recommend strengthening?

1: because it's part of the Constitution of the United States.
2: because it's one of our defenses against government going bad
3: because gun control is another way of ensuring that we no longer need to be responsible for our own actions; this helps destroy society from the inside
4: because law enforcement should not have too much power over us

Jose
(note - though replied to r.a.student and r.a.piloting; I don't follow the student newsgroup)

Well Tien,
The Second Amendment was written in order to keep the government in
check. The power of the people was meant to be stronger than the power of
the federal government. Unfortunately "We The People" has become more like
"We The Sheeple". Slowly law after law takes away the freedoms of the
people. When you look at laws that are enacted that tell a homeowner that he
can not paint his house certain colors it's pretty easy to see! If you don't
you are going through life with blinders on.
Australia and Great Britain have enacted severe gun control laws , and
their crime rates have sky rocketed. Check out the numbers on numerous web
sites...it's amazing! For myself I see a gun control law as just another
step to do away with guns. Common Sense tells us all that someone who is a
convicted felon should never be allowed to own a firearm, but how many
people do we still let drive a car that drives DUI...just as dangerous
wouldn't you think?
I think a big part of all of the hoopla is that gun control people don't
really understand guns period, or laws already written. I constantly hear
talk of these gun shows selling guns to anybody . I go to these shows all
the time and I have never bought even an old shotgun without the dealer
calling a background check on me. But some politicians may like that does
not happen..Which is just a blatent lie. So it makes me wonder exactly what
these politicians are up to!
The assault weapons ban was a joke! It banned guns because of the way
they looked! My .22 cal rifle fits the operational category of these "oh so
bad" weapons! It's just ridiculas! Also covered on this "ban" was high
capacity magazines. Like it takes more than one bullet to kill someone?
I find it amusing that the political party in this country that usually
complains about police brutality seems to want to make themselves even more
at the mercy of these same police. When only the police and the feds have
guns , what do they think will keep these types in check then? No I am not
saying all cops commit brutal acts, but there are those on the gun control
side that think it happens more often than not in law enforcement.And yep
there are in deed BAD COPS....how many bad cops will there be when no one
can protect themselves from anything..crooks or anyone?
And one simple fact remains...make all the laws you want and the crooks
will still have them and get them . And it only effects law abidding
citizens..who would then be at the mercy of these thugs. If they can not
smuggle them in...which heck we all know you can do look at all the drugs
that come into this country! , a gun is very simple to make. So the law only
prevents a person from defending themselves. Case in point... The city of
Kennesaw Mountain , GA passed a law that required anyone over the age of 21
(homeowner I believe) to own a handgun. The crime rate dropped by something
of the 80% range. Again please look up the exact number. The town made this
law because a town in Ohio I think it was banned guns.....there crime rate
rose by about 80%.
Every city in this country that has strict gun control laws has the
worst crime rates. I for one will never depend on the police that usually
show up 2 hours after a crime has taken place to defend my family. As far as
police complaints well I would complain to, if I had a 9mm and the bad guys
had AK-47's. and since no law is going to stop the bad guys from having an
Ak-47 ...why shouldn't the police or someone who "has the right" to defend
their family have equal firepower.
And common sense will tell you that if you took every single gun out of
a country, a murderer will still kill! Will we ban knives next... then
frying pans and baseball bats? Where would it stop? Or would it just stop
when the government knew the sheeple were at their mercy? No fiearms sure
means no civilian uprising against a tyrant.
It sure all debateable for sure, I think the entire process needs people to
see from both viewpoints not just one side. Gun Control for me would be a
background check, must be 18 to own or carry a firearm, and a convicted
felon has no right to a firearm or a vote( those rights should be lost at
conviction). Other than that..you can take my guns when you pry my dead cold
fingers off of them. hee hee hee

Patrick
"TD" wrote in message
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Roger wrote in message

Bush's fundamentalism, Born again Christian stance scares me

Scares me too.


as does
Kerry's anti-gun, ...stance.

Roger, this confuses me, and many others I am sure both in the US and
especially outside. Why do many americans view anti-gun laws as
frightening? Coming from a place where we have significant gun
control mechanisms, which in my layman`s view, seems to "work"
controlling violent crime, why would you favor upholding the 2nd
ammendment instead of supporting gun control, which many if not all
law enforcement agencies recommend strengthening?

Tien

Peter Duniho wrote:

"Roger" wrote in message
...
No, that one is true. Kerry claims to be a hunter and pro gun rights,
but his voting record is decidedly anti-gun.

Again, you are oversimplifying the issue, labeling as "anti-gun" anyone who
doesn't approve of carte-blanche access to guns. "False" was correct.

No, Kerry's voting record is 100% anti-gun. As some highlights,

-- He voted this year for a ban on centerfire rifle ammunition. That would
immediately make most deer hunting weapons useless.
-- He voted for the Schumer ammendment to spend millions for gun buyback programs.
-- He's a co-sponsor of legislation to ban semi-automatic rifles and shotguns.
Ironically, his bill would make the shotgun he received as a gift in West Virginia
illegal.
-- He's voted several times to ban legitimate sales of firearms by private owners.
-- He's voted for Federal firearms registration.
-- He voted for a measure that would make a firearms owner responsible if his
weapon is stolen and used in a crime.
-- He voted to kill the Civilian Marksmanship Program.

He's voted the same way as Ted Kennedy on gun issues and the same way as Chuck
Schumer nearly 100% of the time. That is *not* a moderate stance on gun ownership.

George Patterson
If a man gets into a fight 3,000 miles away from home, he *had* to have
been looking for it.

NW_PILOT wrote:

When the bag boy/girl asks you want help out I say sure give him/her a
tip if he/she don't break the eggs or squish the bread while loading them in
the car and he/she usually takes care of the cart at the same time.

You have "bag boys" where you live? Wow!

George Patterson
If a man gets into a fight 3,000 miles away from home, he *had* to have
been looking for it.