If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below. |
|
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
#41
|
|||
|
|||
Newps wrote:
You completely missed the point. After watching a lot of the news footage over the last few days, I took his words a bit more literally. Our poor people aren't poor compared to the rest of the world. This thread is not comparing our poor to the rest of the world. This thread started when Jay questioned why so many people stayed behind. -- Peter ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
#42
|
|||
|
|||
Peter R. wrote:
This thread is not comparing our poor to the rest of the world. This thread started when Jay questioned why so many people stayed behind. Well, lots of them stayed behind because they weren't allowed to leave. There's a substantial prison population camping out with their guards on one of the elevated highways. They're just now starting to evacuate the hospitals. George Patterson Give a person a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a person to use the Internet and he won't bother you for weeks. |
#43
|
|||
|
|||
("Bob Fry" wrote)
[snip] But as someone who lives in California--the Midwest's ATM machine--I know all about paying for other people's stupid decisions. It's damn ironic for someone from the Midwest, the red-ink and red-state heartland, to lecture us on where to live and sucking precious tax dollars. Huh? ....and huh? ........and huh? Montblack |
#44
|
|||
|
|||
Rich Lemert wrote:
Jay Honeck wrote: I would have been in my plane/van/car/whatever, aimed north... You are making several assumptions ... did cut a lot of very good points what worries me in this whole mess (I mean, in addition to watching it all happen and feeling pretty darn powerless at doing anything about it except for sending a token donation to the Red Cross) is that: this thing didn't happen as a surprise; unlike the tsunami victims, there was at least a 48 hours warning; since 9/11, there has been a lot of talk about disaster preparedness, and publicized exercises, and gesticulations about home land security and all that sort of things; yet, when the s* hits the fan, with advanced notice (a courtesy that we shouldn't expect from the bad guys -- or the next tsunami for that matter, a recent tsunami alert in California was given *one hour* after the thing was supposed to hit the coast), well, we end up with a massive humanitarian disaster like any third world country which we used to watch on tv feeling so much safer... this is quite humbling indeed. --Sylvain |
#45
|
|||
|
|||
On 2005-08-31, Jay Honeck wrote:
Why the hell were they there? Everyone in America knew that New Orleans -- and everything for 100 miles on each side -- was about to be blasted by Katrina. Not everyone had a means of getting out of New Orleans. Many of those who stayed had their feet as their only form of transport. They had a choice - stay and ride it out in the Superdome or their homes, or perhaps walk and get no more than 20 miles and be guaranteed to be *without shelter* when the storm hit. -- Dylan Smith, Castletown, Isle of Man Flying: http://www.dylansmith.net Frontier Elite Universe: http://www.alioth.net "Maintain thine airspeed, lest the ground come up and smite thee" |
#46
|
|||
|
|||
On 2005-09-01, Bob Fry wrote:
"JH" == Jay Honeck writes: JH America is the only country in the world with fat poor people. It's the only country with so many fat people, period. Don't worry, apparently Britain is only 7 years behind the US for obesity rates! So you're in good company... -- Dylan Smith, Castletown, Isle of Man Flying: http://www.dylansmith.net Frontier Elite Universe: http://www.alioth.net "Maintain thine airspeed, lest the ground come up and smite thee" |
#47
|
|||
|
|||
On 2005-09-01, Jay Honeck wrote:
Bottom line: If I could sit here in Iowa, watching on TV as this big ol' bag of Katrina whoop-ass bore inexorably down on the Gulf Coast, why couldn't the people who actually LIVE THERE do the same thing? I would have been in my plane/van/car/whatever, aimed north... It would have to be 'whatever' because tens of thousands of New Orleans residents DO NOT own cars and there aren't enough buses to go around. -- Dylan Smith, Castletown, Isle of Man Flying: http://www.dylansmith.net Frontier Elite Universe: http://www.alioth.net "Maintain thine airspeed, lest the ground come up and smite thee" |
#48
|
|||
|
|||
Rich Lemert wrote:
You are making several assumptions here that are not completely justifiable. The first is that these people did not listen to the warnings. There's a difference between wanting to get out of Dodge, and being able to do so. This is also reflected in the assumption indicated by your last statement - the assumption that these people had a "plane/van/car/whatever" that they could take north. For a lot of people in the city, the best they can afford is the public bus or streetcar system. That's a fault of the local government. Where are all the City of New Orleans public transit buses? And where are they going to go, even if they could go somewhere. New Orleans is one of those places where you're a newcomer if your family only goes back five generations, and where a relative is "distant" because he lives on the other side of town. These people don't have relatives they can stay with in other parts of the country because their relatives are in the city with them - and have been for many years. Staying in a motel is out of the question - when you're living day-to-day you just can't afford the luxury. Translation: they are on the federal, state and local dole. They have no incentive to leave. There's also an emotional aspect to leaving that you, accustomed as you are to travelling routinely throughout the country, won't understand. A lot of these people have never been more than 25-30 miles from the home they were raised in. They may be in harm's way, but it's a familiar place. Even a lot of the middle-class inhabitants of the city can't understand how someone could move so far away (like maybe 150 miles) from everything they grew up with and all their friends and family. After all, if you're that far away aren't you in a different country? Translation: they are ignorant and uneducated, incapable of logical reasoning? Stay alive or feel good? Hmmm... what should I do? |
#49
|
|||
|
|||
"Montblack" wrote in message ... ("Bob Fry" wrote) [snip] But as someone who lives in California--the Midwest's ATM machine--I know all about paying for other people's stupid decisions. It's damn ironic for someone from the Midwest, the red-ink and red-state heartland, to lecture us on where to live and sucking precious tax dollars. Huh? ...and huh? .......and huh? Montblack Don't worry it's just west coast mumbo jumbo. |
#50
|
|||
|
|||
Dylan Smith wrote:
It would have to be 'whatever' because tens of thousands of New Orleans residents DO NOT own cars and there aren't enough buses to go around. 100 city buses each carrying 75 people 200 miles inland could relocate 65,000 people in three days, distributing them so as not to cause an undue burden on any one geographic are and resources. |
Thread Tools | |
Display Modes | |
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
Fall Photo Shoots | Arnold Sten | Piloting | 7 | October 8th 04 04:29 PM |
Windsocks ,. Great fall special $ 15 for 1 or $ 25 for 2 | GASSITT | Aviation Marketplace | 0 | October 6th 04 05:12 AM |
Tomcats gone by fall of 2006 | Mike Weeks | Naval Aviation | 48 | June 22nd 04 02:32 PM |
NE fall foliage report | Cub Driver | Piloting | 0 | October 19th 03 12:25 PM |
Fall Colors Flights! | Jack Cunniff | Piloting | 2 | October 15th 03 10:06 PM |