Kerry didn't join the National Guard to avoid combat.

Bush did that.


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Bush did that.

I would probably argue that Bush's 3 years as a fighter pilot were both more
dangerous and of a greater overall service to his country than Kerry's 3
months as a Swiftie. And then there's the fact that Kerry pretty obviously
gamed the system to get out of his tour early.


Hey, but Bush has an 11 point lead, despite your rantings. Or perhaps
because of them. Either way, Kerry is probably toast come November. Oh well.

In article , Thomas J.
Paladino Jr. wrote:

Bush did that.

I would probably argue that Bush's 3 years as a fighter pilot were both more
dangerous and of a greater overall service to his country than Kerry's 3
months as a Swiftie. And then there's the fact that Kerry pretty obviously
gamed the system to get out of his tour early.


Hey, but Bush has an 11 point lead, despite your rantings. Or perhaps
because of them. Either way, Kerry is probably toast come November. Oh well.

And, ya know, those facts about their earlier military conduct really
don't mean much. The Vietnam War was such a ****ed up situation that
it is really hard to figure out what was the 'right' action.

raoul

"Raoul" wrote in message
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In article , Thomas J.
Paladino Jr. wrote:

Bush did that.

I would probably argue that Bush's 3 years as a fighter pilot were both
more
dangerous and of a greater overall service to his country than Kerry's 3
months as a Swiftie. And then there's the fact that Kerry pretty
obviously
gamed the system to get out of his tour early.


Hey, but Bush has an 11 point lead, despite your rantings. Or perhaps
because of them. Either way, Kerry is probably toast come November. Oh
well.

And, ya know, those facts about their earlier military conduct really
don't mean much. The Vietnam War was such a ****ed up situation that
it is really hard to figure out what was the 'right' action.



Yep, thats basically the core truth of this whole issue.

Unfortunately, Kerry decided to make his three months in Vietnam the
foundation of his entire campaign, so now here we are dissecting what two
kids in their 20s did during probably the most ass-backwards period in
modern history.

If Kerry had spent more time talking about his 20 years in the senate,
rather than his 3 months in 'Nam, then this would be a non-issue. I still
don't know what he did in the senate for all that time.

"Thomas J. Paladino Jr." wrote in message
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If Kerry had spent more time talking about his 20 years in the senate,
rather than his 3 months in 'Nam, then this would be a non-issue.


Yeah, and Bush would have a twenty point lead.

Subject: Kerry didn't join the National Guard to avoid combat.
From: "Steven P. McNicoll"
Date: 9/5/2004 2:41 PM Pacific Standard Time
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"Thomas J. Paladino Jr." wrote in message
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If Kerry had spent more time talking about his 20 years in the senate,
rather than his 3 months in 'Nam, then this would be a non-issue.


Yeah, and Bush would have a twenty point lead.


Let's see if I have the neocon logic right. Bush who never saw combat or fired
a shot in anger or met the enemy is a hero. But Kerry, wounded many times in
combat, awarded a Silver Star and three Purple Hearts is a coward. Right
neocons? What a sick bunch you are.


Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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"Thomas J. Paladino Jr." wrote in message
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If Kerry had spent more time talking about his 20 years in the senate,
rather than his 3 months in 'Nam, then this would be a non-issue.


Yeah, and Bush would have a twenty point lead.


Yep. It's funny how liberals have to try to hide the fact that their
liberals in order to get elected to higher office. If they run on their
record, then they don't have a chance in hell.

"Thomas J. Paladino Jr." wrote

I still don't know what he did in the senate for all that time.

Ask Kennedy, he's the guy that kept him elected in MA.

On Sun, 05 Sep 2004 17:35:38 GMT, "Thomas J. Paladino Jr."
wrote:


Bush did that.

I would probably argue that Bush's 3 years as a fighter pilot were both more
dangerous and of a greater overall service to his country than Kerry's 3
months as a Swiftie. And then there's the fact that Kerry pretty obviously
gamed the system to get out of his tour early.

LOL.....sure, you could argue it, but you'd be wrong. An interceptor
unit in Texas flying soon to be obsolete aircraft was not exactly the
'Tip of the Spear' of national defense.

Bush was in a chamgaigne unit to avoid the draft. Plain and simple.
However, he couldn't even honorably complete that cushy mission
without disappearing for a year.

When mandatory drug testing was implemented as part of all flight
physicals, Bush refused to take his required physical and grounded
himself. Shortly afterwards he disappeared. You connect the dots.

All his life Bush has had others to make excuses for him and cover up
his failures. That still holds true today.


To know the neocon chickenhawks.... watch what they do .... not what
they say...... Jack

Subject: Kerry didn't join the National Guard to avoid combat.
From: Jack
Date: 9/6/2004 6:25 AM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:

On Sun, 05 Sep 2004 17:35:38 GMT, "Thomas J. Paladino Jr."
wrote:


Bush did that.

I would probably argue that Bush's 3 years as a fighter pilot were both more
dangerous and of a greater overall service to his country than Kerry's 3
months as a Swiftie. And then there's the fact that Kerry pretty obviously
gamed the system to get out of his tour early.

LOL.....sure, you could argue it, but you'd be wrong. An interceptor
unit in Texas flying soon to be obsolete aircraft was not exactly the
'Tip of the Spear' of national defense.

Bush was in a chamgaigne unit to avoid the draft. Plain and simple.
However, he couldn't even honorably complete that cushy mission
without disappearing for a year.

When mandatory drug testing was implemented as part of all flight
physicals, Bush refused to take his required physical and grounded
himself. Shortly afterwards he disappeared. You connect the dots.

All his life Bush has had others to make excuses for him and cover up
his failures. That still holds true today.


To know the neocon chickenhawks.... watch what they do .... not what
they say...... Jack


They will say anything. but all they will do is give tax cuts to their rich
friends and avoid military duty while they send others out to die. Then they
will reward corporations for sending jobs overseas. Worst administration in
American history.


Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer