My Trip To The Avionics Shop $$$$$

Well my bird spent 6 hours at the avionics/instrument shop today getting a
pito static & transponder encoder check now the results


Transponder/Encoder Working 100% To 20,000 feet
Altimeter Working 100% Well With in Specs To 14,000 feet did not go higher
then aircraft service ceiling
VSI Working 100%
Static System Pass
Pito System Fail Has Leak In System = Traced To Airspeed Indicator Leak on
Pito Side Needs Rebuilt Anyone know of a good place to a rebuild have
done or a decent replacement?
Turn Coordinator Bad = Barings Making Noise Needs Rebuilt Anyone know
of a good place to have a rebuild done or a decent replacement?
1 Vor Head OK
1 Vor Head W/ Glide Slope Bad = Localizer Works Great, Vor Is Off 8 Degrees,
Glide Slope don't go to full deflection Non serviceable needs replaced.

Other than my first bill in owning was a fun exciting day in the shop they
were very friendly and explained everything that they were doing and answerd
all my questions i really learned how all the insturments work kinda cool if
i decide to replace instrad of rebuild ill have some that i can take apart
and play with.

Never, never, never, rebuild a gyro instrument that your life depends
upon... Always replace with new...

If the GS head is your only one, then it has to be new... If you have a
backup, then overhaul is OK - in your case it is not capable of an OH and
you don't have a backup GS, so moot point...
On the airspeed, I personally would replace it with new, but since a non
functioning airspeed won't kill you, overhaul is an option...

denny

"MRQB" wrote in message
...

I disagree. A good overhaul is just as good as brand new, and may even be
better if you have one of the older units. The overhaul gets all the
bearings replaced and is cleaned up. Gyros are pretty simple mechanical
devices. It is just as likely to have a new one fail as it is an overhauled
unit. Why pay for new for the pieces that don't wear?

Dennis O'Connor wrote:

Never, never, never, rebuild a gyro instrument that your life depends
upon... Always replace with new...

If the GS head is your only one, then it has to be new... If you have a
backup, then overhaul is OK - in your case it is not capable of an OH and
you don't have a backup GS, so moot point...
On the airspeed, I personally would replace it with new, but since a non
functioning airspeed won't kill you, overhaul is an option...

denny

"MRQB" wrote in message
...

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Dennis O'Connor wrote:
Never, never, never, rebuild a gyro instrument that your life depends
upon... Always replace with new...

Drivel.

It's interesting that you use an insult to make a point - I will pass on
that... That's two insulting posts I've received in the past couple of
days...

"Newps" wrote in message
news:ftC9c.117546$_w.1374580@attbi_s53...


Dennis O'Connor wrote:
Never, never, never, rebuild a gyro instrument that your life depends
upon... Always replace with new...

Drivel.

Here's another one. Grow up! I didn't read where you were elected
Pope and now carry infallibility into aviation newsgroups. Some
people may have a bit more knowledge about a certain subject and will
disagree. Some people won't know **** and disagree. This is usenet
and without a thick skin, you'll never survive without your mommy.

On Mon, 29 Mar 2004 14:11:47 -0500, "Dennis O'Connor"
wrote:

It's interesting that you use an insult to make a point - I will pass on
that... That's two insulting posts I've received in the past couple of
days...

"Newps" wrote in message
news:ftC9c.117546$_w.1374580@attbi_s53...


Dennis O'Connor wrote:
Never, never, never, rebuild a gyro instrument that your life depends
upon... Always replace with new...

Drivel.

If it fits, maybe you're insulting your own intelligence.

"Dennis O'Connor" wrote in message
...
It's interesting that you use an insult to make a point - I will pass on
that... That's two insulting posts I've received in the past couple of
days...

"Newps" wrote in message
news:ftC9c.117546$_w.1374580@attbi_s53...


Dennis O'Connor wrote:
Never, never, never, rebuild a gyro instrument that your life depends
upon... Always replace with new...

Drivel.

If it fits, maybe you're insulting your own intelligence.

Gentlemen, (and I obviously use the term loosely...) please take a breath.

This is a discussion about avionics, and Mr. O'Connor's thoughts on re-built
equipment are well-known and well thought-out.

I personally don't agree with his assessment, either, but his long
experience and extensive participation in this group -- to the benefit of us
all -- certainly has earned him the right to an opinion without
name-calling.

Sheesh.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Dennis O'Connor wrote:
Never, never, never, rebuild a gyro instrument that your life depends
upon... Always replace with new...

If the GS head is your only one, then it has to be new... If you have a
backup, then overhaul is OK - in your case it is not capable of an OH and
you don't have a backup GS, so moot point...
On the airspeed, I personally would replace it with new, but since a non
functioning airspeed won't kill you, overhaul is an option...


Dennis,
I tend to agree with you. My experience, as well as the experience of
my avionics person (who's also a friend of mine) is that the overhauls
don't tend to last as long as new. I'm not sure why you're statement is
causing so much heartburn. Afterall, everyone can make up their minds for
themselves. I'm not sure I'd worry as much about a GS head as you, but
I don't really fly much IFR anymore. After going through a few overhauled
AI's, I bought a new one and it's been great for years. I'd probably be
tempted with getting my DG overhauled, since the compass is a backup in an
emergency.

--- Jay


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My experience with OH gyros has been so-so... Not horrible, but not good
enough to risk my life on them... One time back in the 60's, flying my
Skylane up to Drummond Island to take my boys fishing, I did have my only
horizon slowly wind down and roll over - I used the TC to let down
underneath and fly marginal vfr back to my home airport... It was an old
unit that had been overhauled a couple of times in a 7000 hour airframe...
My rule since then is that the PIC AI/TC have to be replaced with new if
they go sour... Back up gyros/nav-heads can certainly be OH units...

Most of us have two VOR, so I don't have strong feelings on them... But,
many pilots have just one GS, so it needs to be trustworthy...
I have actually had the fun experience about two years ago of having an
recently overhauled GS head pack it up in, 300 and a mile conditions ... The
needle centered on the bubble and stayed there... No warning flag... If it
weren't for the fact that it was rough air and I had been having to jockey
the throttle all the way down to that point I might have been lulled into a
bad situation... I got suspicious fairly quickly, added power, and when the
needle did not react and declared the missed approach... That was the day I
added another rule to my book - the copilot side ILS radio WILL be turned on
and on frequency during any real IMC approach...

Yup, seems some of those on here are spoiling for some kinda fight... Wrong
guy for that... I'll just keep commenting where I see fit...

denny

"Jay Masino" wrote in Dennis,
I tend to agree with you. My experience, as well as the experience of
my avionics person (who's also a friend of mine) is that the overhauls
don't tend to last as long as new. I'm not sure why you're statement is
causing so much heartburn.