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  #41  
Old November 30th 03, 12:38 PM
Martin Hotze
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On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 17:27:13 GMT, mike regish wrote:

You can't spend time in
a bar and stay under the legal limit.


You _can't_?

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Old November 30th 03, 12:42 PM
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Or he rides a Harley. That was my undoing. Our town has 3 bars and a package
store in spitting distance of the police station. One bar right across the
street and the packy right next door. Even I see the same cars parked there
every night and I know for a fact that these people drink to beyond the
legal limit, get in their cars and drive home, right under the noses of the
cops. I can't imagine that they don't notice this adn also know. I don't
know anybody that can go into a bar and drink, then come out under the legal
limit. You can hit .08 just sniffing the stuff.

Anyway, if he drank like he says he did, then he's just unlucky or he ****ed
off some cop somehow.

As for getting a job, if he stays out of trouble long enough and shows some
talent for flying and is willing to put in the time to prove himself, I can
see him eventually getting hired. I'd rather hire a pilot with some real
talent and ability with a couple of distant dings in his record than some
clean cut preppy sho just hinks flying will get him chicks.

I also agree with Peter's statement, though. If he has to ask himself the
question about being passionate enough about it, he probably isn't. Doesn't
mean he shouldn't try, though. Could just be being objective with himself.

mike regish

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news:I0fyb.165419$Dw6.652425@attbi_s02...

As I've repeatedly stated,
he's either incredibly unlucky -- or he's got a problem knowing when to
quit.

As for this being off-topic, HE'S the one who came here, looking for

advice
about whether he can fly with two DUIs. As many have already stated, I'd
say he should be able to fly -- but who the heck is going to hire him?

In
a highly competitive job market, employers are just looking for ways to
"weed out" applicants.

What chance would he have, when there's 25 guys WITHOUT a DUI conviction
begging for the job?
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  #43  
Old November 30th 03, 01:10 PM
mike regish
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Well, maybe not *can't*, but I've never seen anybody who did more than stop
for one beer do it. The .08 limit seems to be more of an arbitrary limit
that has more to do with how much and often you drink than how it affects
your ability to function. The guy I used to ride with was probably at a
constant level well over .1, but you'd never know it without smelling his
breath. I never saw him noticeably drunk. Not saying that's a good thing. He
was killing his body, but he was a safe and competent driver and he never
got a single DUI.

What gets me is how so many people *don't* get busted since bars with full
parking lots make such obviously rich "fishing grounds."

I remember a movie we saw in drunk driving school (they have schools for
that?!) where people were in a controlled setting with a breathalyzer. They
would drink measured drinks and take breathalyzer tests. One guy, kind of
small, who didn't drink much could barely talk and was obviously impaired at
..14. Another, slightly larger, who drank regularly was basically sober as a
judge (another expression I've never understood) at .14. What this was
supposed to demonstrate to us is still unclear to me. What I got from it is
what I wrote above.

mike regish

"Martin Hotze" wrote in message
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On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 17:27:13 GMT, mike regish wrote:

You can't spend time in
a bar and stay under the legal limit.


You _can't_?

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Old November 30th 03, 01:35 PM
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On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 13:10:46 GMT, mike regish wrote:


What gets me is how so many people *don't* get busted since bars with full
parking lots make such obviously rich "fishing grounds."


Whenever I am away and using my car (and this is mostly always) I have a
very limited tolerance regarding alcohol. Maybe a glass of wine for dinner.
Or 1 beer or so. Or a small aperitif. I can sozialise even while 'only'
drinking soft drinks.

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Old November 30th 03, 01:37 PM
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On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 12:42:48 GMT, mike regish wrote:

I'd rather hire a pilot with some real
talent and ability with a couple of distant dings in his record than some
clean cut preppy sho just hinks flying will get him chicks.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Hey! NOW we are ON TOPIC. Flying and chicks! *hehe*

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Old November 30th 03, 02:25 PM
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Hey! NOW we are ON TOPIC. Flying and chicks! *hehe*

Didja ever notice, no matter how sober (sorry!) the topic, it *always* comes
back to this?

:-)
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  #47  
Old November 30th 03, 02:35 PM
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In a bar? Sure a lot of people drink like that in a restaurant. They're just
drinking-and socializing-in bars. Maybe some beer nuts and pretzels, but
that's about it. And for the most part, they're staying significantly longer
than diners do.

mike regish

"Martin Hotze" wrote in message
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On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 13:10:46 GMT, mike regish wrote:


What gets me is how so many people *don't* get busted since bars with

full
parking lots make such obviously rich "fishing grounds."


Whenever I am away and using my car (and this is mostly always) I have a
very limited tolerance regarding alcohol. Maybe a glass of wine for

dinner.
Or 1 beer or so. Or a small aperitif. I can sozialise even while 'only'
drinking soft drinks.

#m

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  #48  
Old November 30th 03, 02:56 PM
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mike regish wrote:

You can't spend time in a bar and stay under the legal limit.


That's funny. I was always able to do so.

George Patterson
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hear is a tiny voice whispering "It's indoor work with no heavy lifting".
  #49  
Old November 30th 03, 02:58 PM
mike regish
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For how long? I tried the "one beer an hour" thing once. I wouldn't have
wanted to take a breathalyzer after that. Plus, the beer got warm. I don't
think you can seriously claim that somebody who goes into a bar at 8 pm and
comes out at 1:30 am will be below the legal limit after drinking for that
entire time, no matter how slowly he drinks. I've never seen anybody in a
bar who doesn't have a drink in front of him to him at all times.

mike regish

"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message
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mike regish wrote:

You can't spend time in a bar and stay under the legal limit.


That's funny. I was always able to do so.

George Patterson
Some people think they hear a call to the priesthood when what they

really
hear is a tiny voice whispering "It's indoor work with no heavy

lifting".


  #50  
Old November 30th 03, 02:58 PM
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Larry Dighera wrote:

On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:11:27 -0500, "G.R. Patterson III"
wrote in Message-Id:
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If I'm not that passionate about it then it doesn't make sense
for me to persue it.


If you can even think, yet alone utter that sentence, you probably
will be unwilling to make the necessary sacrifices.


I did not say that.

George Patterson
Some people think they hear a call to the priesthood when what they really
hear is a tiny voice whispering "It's indoor work with no heavy lifting".
 




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