CBS "News" strikes AGAIN

"Peter Gottlieb" wrote in
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"David H" wrote in message
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They asked, "why weren't air force fighters scrambled to intercept and
shoot down this plane?"

These people are nuts. There is a reason why we try to keep the armed
forces from police duties in this country. Just what kind of
government is CBS trying to push? What is their real agenda?

Ratings... Nothing but Ratings...

I hear they have been running that thing over and over.


"Judah" wrote in message
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"Peter Gottlieb" wrote in
.net:

"David H" wrote in message
...
They asked, "why weren't air force fighters scrambled to intercept and
shoot down this plane?"

These people are nuts. There is a reason why we try to keep the armed
forces from police duties in this country. Just what kind of
government is CBS trying to push? What is their real agenda?

Ratings... Nothing but Ratings...

Y'All, over thirty years ago I taught such a pilot a bit past solo. He
stole a club plane and took a bottle up with him while he flew all over the
S.F. Bay Area while telling ATC
what he was doing.. He passed out. Fortunately, or otherwise, the aircraft
was trimmed for \a slight climb and headed nearly north.

He crashed in the Nevada desert with no injury to the 'pilot' but destroyed
the aircraft. What a waste of instruction. Good or otherwise. A war story
for every situation.

While I've got you attention. I had a 'new' experience this
afternoon when of the final landing of a pre-solo lesson the engine died on
the runway.

I rolled clear of the runway and told tower we had an engine failure. Then
I noted that the mixture was all the way out. The Student had 'leaned the
mixture' as a part
of his post landing checklist.

I wonder if I'll live long enough to have happen to me, everything that can
happen?
Gene

"Gene Whitt" wrote in message
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Y'All, over thirty years ago I taught such a pilot a bit past solo. He
stole a club plane and took a bottle up with him while he flew all over
the
S.F. Bay Area while telling ATC
what he was doing.. He passed out. Fortunately, or otherwise, the
aircraft
was trimmed for \a slight climb and headed nearly north.

He crashed in the Nevada desert with no injury to the 'pilot' but
destroyed
the aircraft. What a waste of instruction. Good or otherwise. A war
story
for every situation.

While I've got you attention. I had a 'new' experience this
afternoon when of the final landing of a pre-solo lesson the engine died
on
the runway.

I rolled clear of the runway and told tower we had an engine failure.
Then
I noted that the mixture was all the way out. The Student had 'leaned the
mixture' as a part
of his post landing checklist.

I wonder if I'll live long enough to have happen to me, everything that
can
happen?
Gene

One of my CFIs tells the story of instructing a student to "throttle back"
to begin slow flight maneuvers. Instead, the student pulled the mixture,
killing the engine. When the student realized what he had done, he pleaded
with the instructor, "your plane, your plane!" The CFI calmly replied,
"this aircraft was working when I handed it over to you. I don't want it
back now; it's not working!"

"Joe Johnson" wrote in message
om...

"Gene Whitt" wrote in message
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Y'All, over thirty years ago I taught such a pilot a bit past solo. He
stole a club plane and took a bottle up with him while he flew all over
the
S.F. Bay Area while telling ATC
what he was doing.. He passed out. Fortunately, or otherwise, the
aircraft
was trimmed for \a slight climb and headed nearly north.

He crashed in the Nevada desert with no injury to the 'pilot' but
destroyed
the aircraft. What a waste of instruction. Good or otherwise. A war
story
for every situation.

While I've got you attention. I had a 'new' experience this
afternoon when of the final landing of a pre-solo lesson the engine died
on
the runway.

I rolled clear of the runway and told tower we had an engine failure.
Then
I noted that the mixture was all the way out. The Student had 'leaned
the
mixture' as a part
of his post landing checklist.

I wonder if I'll live long enough to have happen to me, everything that
can
happen?
Gene

One of my CFIs tells the story of instructing a student to "throttle back"
to begin slow flight maneuvers. Instead, the student pulled the mixture,
killing the engine. When the student realized what he had done, he
pleaded
with the instructor, "your plane, your plane!" The CFI calmly replied,
"this aircraft was working when I handed it over to you. I don't want it
back now; it's not working!"


Heh,heh
Sounds like something my instructor would have said ;-)

On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 15:54:31 GMT, "Joe Johnson"
wrote:


"Gene Whitt" wrote in message
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Y'All, over thirty years ago I taught such a pilot a bit past solo. He
stole a club plane and took a bottle up with him while he flew all over
the
snip

I wonder if I'll live long enough to have happen to me, everything that
can
happen?
Gene

One of my CFIs tells the story of instructing a student to "throttle back"
to begin slow flight maneuvers. Instead, the student pulled the mixture,
killing the engine. When the student realized what he had done, he pleaded
with the instructor, "your plane, your plane!" The CFI calmly replied,
"this aircraft was working when I handed it over to you. I don't want it
back now; it's not working!"

From the other end of the spectrum...
A while back a Glasair III pilot was undergoing some training. The
engine quit on final. Now the G-III has a wing loading of basically
30# per sq foot. That means when the power is off, or at idle the
rate of descent is welll... pretty decent.

The pilot/owner was set up pretty well for a dead stick landing, but
the instructor was unused to the high sink rate... (1500 fpm plus) and
was trying for a restart.

Just as the mains were ready to touch down the engine caught "at full
throttle". There was good news and bad news. (The bad news) The
plane slewed sideways due to the torque at slow speed, (The good news)
but they were so close to the runway the mains hit before they could
either roll or dig in a wing.(The bad news) Unfortunately they hit
almost sideways and it wiped the mains out.

You can look it up by checking for LAN as the airport and Glasair III.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

the aircraft. What a waste of instruction. Good or otherwise. A war story
for every situation.

That's you, all right, Gene! Thanks again for sharing them all!

I wonder if I'll live long enough to have happen to me, everything that can
happen?

Sooner or later one of those "things that can happen" may be "one of
those things that makes you dead" and thus the last "thing" you're
concerned with. :-)

But I for one hope you live to see 160.

Gene