Dangerous Cessna evacuates govt again

In article .com, Sport Pilot wrote:
Not when its possible for a C150 to carry a small A bomb in a suitcase.

Of course they'd have to actually acquire one first. The only A bomb
that the terrorists could construct themselves would be a
Hiroshima-style gun type bomb (something as compact as a 'suitcase sized
bomb' is orders of magnitude more complex and requires much more
precision engineering).

A simple gun-type bomb of any useful yield would not fit in a C150.

--
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"Maintain thine airspeed, lest the ground come up and smite thee"

AOPA or the like should help make examples of these pilots, in a big
public way. "We won't tolerate ignorance among our own and suggest
immediate revocation of their flying privileges".

At first blush upon reading this I thought "How ridiculous!"

However, the more I consider it, the more I think John is onto something
here. If we, the pilot community, don't do something to make it apparent
that these morons who keep busting the TFRs are NOT representative of the
rest of us, nor do they reflect the predominant attitude of most pilots, nor
do they reflect a general lack of intelligence shared by other pilots, I
fear that the federal government is simply going to make the whole danged
East Coast a no-fly zone.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Haven't you ever made a mistake?

Why would you, and the others on this board, immediately jump on the
governments bandwagon?

1) You don't know if these guys are morons or not.
2) There are probably less than 1,000,000 active pilots in this
country - that's a tiny proportion of the general population.
3) The government is going to do away with us, based on number 2, just
because we are a tiny minority, AOPA or not.





On Wed, 11 May 2005 17:49:00 GMT, "Jay Honeck"
wrote:

AOPA or the like should help make examples of these pilots, in a big
public way. "We won't tolerate ignorance among our own and suggest
immediate revocation of their flying privileges".

At first blush upon reading this I thought "How ridiculous!"

However, the more I consider it, the more I think John is onto something
here. If we, the pilot community, don't do something to make it apparent
that these morons who keep busting the TFRs are NOT representative of the
rest of us, nor do they reflect the predominant attitude of most pilots, nor
do they reflect a general lack of intelligence shared by other pilots, I
fear that the federal government is simply going to make the whole danged
East Coast a no-fly zone.

wrote:
Haven't you ever made a mistake?

Why would you, and the others on this board, immediately jump on the
governments bandwagon?

1) You don't know if these guys are morons or not.
2) There are probably less than 1,000,000 active pilots in this
country - that's a tiny proportion of the general population.
3) The government is going to do away with us, based on number 2,
just
because we are a tiny minority, AOPA or not.



Boy. Talk about over reaction.
A C152 with 2 SOB ain't going to be carrying a hell of a lot more.
A case of lousy navigation it would appear.
How many in here have been somewhat wayward at odd times?
Was there a flight plan?

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2) There are probably less than 1,000,000 active pilots in this
country - that's a tiny proportion of the general population.

Actually, about half that number (some 0.2% of the US population).

--
John T
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____________________

Haven't you ever made a mistake?

Why would you, and the others on this board, immediately jump on the
governments bandwagon?

Wow -- you don't get it, do you? This has been happening -- regularly --
for over THREE YEARS.

Every time it happens, the public -- and the government -- looks at us more
suspiciously. Every time this happens I field questions from non-pilots,
asking how this can happen.

Frankly, I'm running out of explanations.

How many more times do you think it can be allowed to happen before the
FAA/TSA/CIA/Whomever says "Enough is enough" -- and terminates our flight
privileges anywhere near D.C.?

I'm planning a flight to D.C. in June, and I'm planning it with more care
and precision than NASA gave the Apollo moon landings. Anyone from outside
the D.C. area who doesn't is a MORON.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:vVKge.75939$c24.26673@attbi_s72...
How many more times do you think it can be allowed to happen before the
FAA/TSA/CIA/Whomever says "Enough is enough" -- and terminates our flight
privileges anywhere near D.C.?

I suspect they look at such events as useful fire drills. The incursions let
them test their procedures under real-life, unplanned circumstances that are
nonetheless benign.

--Gary

Recently, Jay Honeck posted:

AOPA or the like should help make examples of these pilots, in a big
public way. "We won't tolerate ignorance among our own and suggest
immediate revocation of their flying privileges".

At first blush upon reading this I thought "How ridiculous!"

However, the more I consider it, the more I think John is onto
something here. If we, the pilot community, don't do something to
make it apparent that these morons who keep busting the TFRs are NOT
representative of the rest of us, nor do they reflect the predominant
attitude of most pilots, nor do they reflect a general lack of
intelligence shared by other pilots, I fear that the federal
government is simply going to make the whole danged East Coast a
no-fly zone.

Say, Jay...

Weren't you one of those who in a previous thread suggested that we
_relax_ the requirements for getting GA certificates? ;-)

Perhaps this pilot was just one of those on the low end of the current
bell curve.

Neil

Weren't you one of those who in a previous thread suggested that we
_relax_ the requirements for getting GA certificates? ;-)

Perhaps this pilot was just one of those on the low end of the current
bell curve.

What this CFI did wrong has NOTHING to do with flying, and everything to do
with attitude and intelligence.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

On Thu, 12 May 2005 15:50:00 GMT, "Jay Honeck"
wrote in IWKge.75968$WI3.4920@attbi_s71::

What this CFI did wrong has NOTHING to do with flying, a ...

There was no CFI involved in this incident.