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Old May 25th 05, 03:22 AM
Gary Drescher
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"Bob Fry" wrote in message
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I wonder if the student was going to try to log the time?


As what? There's no provision for logging time as a passenger.

They should bust him too. A real couple of bozos.


I think pilots who don't understand the difference between a PIC and a
non-pilot passenger should be busted and required to have remedial training
in the FARs.

--Gary


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Old May 25th 05, 02:20 PM
Bob Fry
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"GD" == Gary Drescher writes:

GD "Bob Fry" wrote in
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I wonder if the student was going to try to log the time?


GD As what? There's no provision for logging time as a passenger.

Exactly.

While we'll never know what arrangement the pilot and student had,
look at what the pilot stated on the TV interview: that the student
was doing all the flying, even after the intercepts, while the pilot
spent his time fiddling with the radio. It sure sounds like the
student intended to log some time, but again, we'll never really
know.
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Old May 25th 05, 03:12 PM
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Why do you believe the student intended to log the time? Just because
he was manipulating the controls? I'm not a pilot, or even a student
pilot - but I have done the majority of flying (operating the controls)
on many flights. I have never had any intention of logging that time,
and I have no reason to believe the student pilot in this case intended
to log his time. The student wasn't even flying with a CFI, so who are
you thinking was going to sign off on that logged time? Let's keep the
blame where it belongs in this case - with the PIC.

-Patrick

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Old May 25th 05, 04:05 AM
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"Bob Fry" wrote in message
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"i" == iflyatiger writes:


i Did anybody else watch the video ? He is claiming that the
i student was at the controls the whole time !! And when asked
i if he would do anything different next time he said he would
i have taken the controls and turned away from Washington.

i Does anybody believe this new story ?

I believe the pilot is a confused coward who, having screwed up, isn't
man enough to admit it, and instead is more or less blaming the
student pilot! I wonder if the student was going to try to log the
time? They should bust him too. A real couple of bozos.


Agree that blaming the student is the most coward thing to do. It doesn't
matter who was driving, but who was the pilot in command. If the airplane
had an autopilot, maybe he would have blamed the autopilot!!!


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Old May 25th 05, 11:45 AM
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I don't really think we can judge the man on the basis of the video
interview. The highly publicized incident caught the attention of the
fancy lawyer, and from there on the man is a marionette. Of course he will
not admit having done anything wrong. For all we know, he is remorseful
and wishes he could just fess up and take the medecine he deserves.

The next thing we'll see is him (through the silk suit on his right)
sueing Cessna for inadequate guidance systems on his 40 year-old 152. And
winning!

G Faris

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Old May 25th 05, 03:00 PM
John T
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Greg Farris wrote:

I don't really think we can judge the man on the basis of the video
interview. The highly publicized incident caught the attention of the
fancy lawyer, and from there on the man is a marionette. Of course he
will not admit having done anything wrong. For all we know, he is
remorseful and wishes he could just fess up and take the medecine he
deserves.


We can judge him on his actions. His flight through the DC ADIZ alone is
reason to judge him, but keep in mind his lawyer works for him. If he's not
man enough to control his own lawyer, it's all the more reason I'd rather
not have him in a cockpit. If he's remorseful, he needs to express it. In
the meantime, he *is* getting his medicine.

The next thing we'll see is him (through the silk suit on his right)
sueing Cessna for inadequate guidance systems on his 40 year-old 152.
And winning!


Believable, but doubtful nonetheless.

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Old May 25th 05, 07:21 PM
George Patterson
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Greg Farris wrote:
I don't really think we can judge the man on the basis of the video
interview. The highly publicized incident caught the attention of the
fancy lawyer, and from there on the man is a marionette.


I agree with this only if the lawyer isn't charging Mr. Schaeffer for this case.
If Schaeffer is paying for it, he's just a lying sleazeball trying to weasel out
of taking responsibility for his actions.

George Patterson
"Naked" means you ain't got no clothes on; "nekkid" means you ain't got
no clothes on - and are up to somethin'.
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Old May 25th 05, 08:21 PM
John T
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Did anybody else notice the absurdly inaccurate graphic of the DC ADIZ they
used? They were pointing to Andrews Air Force Base as "Dulles" and pointing
to Dulles as "Reagan National". Yet more proof why you can't trust the
"news" to provide accurate "facts".

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Old May 25th 05, 11:07 PM
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John T wrote:
Did anybody else notice the absurdly inaccurate graphic of the DC ADIZ they
used? They were pointing to Andrews Air Force Base as "Dulles" and pointing
to Dulles as "Reagan National". Yet more proof why you can't trust the
"news" to provide accurate "facts".


They probably consulted with Shaeffer on getting the graphics
correct :-)

John Galban=====N4BQ (PA28-180)

 




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