Your free AvGas fillup at Dodge Center MN (TOB) July Sunday 31, AM

Me too ...


"Matt Barrow" wrote in message
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"abripl" wrote in message
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Yep, you are right it was Matt that said it....

And my reply was sirected at Jay's take on the CC company, not you.

You neither accepted, nor denied, responsibility.

I did say that your post was rather silly, posting it to a Newsgroup that
is
frequented by maybe 100-200 pilots out of the 750,000 active. It sounded
like whining to me.


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Matt
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Matthew W. Barrow
Site-Fill Homes, LLC.
Montrose, CO

"abripl" wrote in message
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And my reply was sirected at Jay's take on the CC company, not you.

Its a public news group where anybody can respond to anybody.

You neither accepted, nor denied, responsibility.

What am I supposed to say? Is this a Martha Stewart case?
Tell me exact words you want me to use to make my confession.

I did say that your post was rather silly, posting it to a Newsgroup
that is
frequented by maybe 100-200 pilots out of the 750,000 active. It sounded
like whining to me.

Many people participate in a 1/100,000,000 odds lottery and pay for it
- this is better odds 200/750,000 and free.... but many more lurk w/o
posting. And it brought out some practical suggestions from others (not
your accusations), and whats wrong with promoting honesty.

Yeah...sure.

And others
can learn from my incident.

Sure didn't come off that way.

That was my first day using self serve.

It's a tough life, kid.

Blah blah blah.

It's whining if one does not take responsibility for ones irresponsible
actions. I include myself, if you don't include yourself or the original
poster, then whatever.

I repeat that it's best to keep such mistakes to oneself unless one is
thick-skinned enough to take the heat on a newsgroup.


"Peter Duniho" wrote in message
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"John Larson" wrote in message
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Are you serious? Some guy "accidentally" gassed up his plane on this guys
dime?

The point Bob was making (I think) is that the original post was certainly
not worded as an accusation.

If he really did wind up with someone else buying gas on his dime, I
certainly agree it's unlikely that person did so unknowingly. But Paul's
original post was worded very kindly, and not at all in an accusatory
tone.

In other words, your use of the word "stole" implies that he was accusing
the person of something (like stealing). When in fact he worded his post
so as to allow for the possibility that the person simply accidently
wandered off with his money (so to speak).

As far as who's fault it is, if the gas was indeed stolen, I'd say it was
both Paul's fault, as well as whoever stole the gas. And it was mostly
the fault of the person who stole the gas. That's not to say that Paul
should be absolved of his commitment to pay his credit card company what
is owed; as has been pointed out, if he gets out of paying, the cost will
be borne by entirely innocent parties, which is obviously not fair or
right.

But to stand around and imply that Paul got what he deserved for making
such an error (assuming he did make such an error) is unreasonable. If
everyone in the world were honorable and honest, his mistake wouldn't have
led to any loss at all.

Pete

I agree ...


"Matt Barrow" wrote in message
news

"John Larson" wrote in message
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Are you serious? Some guy "accidentally" gassed up his plane on this guys
dime?


Oh boy...shades of Eddie Murphy at the beginning of "Trading Places"

No, I've got a better idea: How about posting a note at the FBO where it
happened. Odds of finding the "culprit" are much better on the scale of
thousands-to-one.



"Bob Noel" wrote in message
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In article , John Larson
wrote:

Well, not just say "Don't forget to turn the pump off after fueling at
self-service pumps" instead of spreading a blanket statement
maintaining that someone stole his gas?

I didn't read the original post as an accusation (especially since
he said "If it was you that accidentally filled up that morning after
me
").

--
Bob Noel
no one likes an educated mule

Matt Barrow wrote:
I did say that your post was rather silly, posting it to a Newsgroup that is
frequented by maybe 100-200 pilots out of the 750,000 active. It sounded
like whining to me.

Where did you get the 750k number?
There haven't been that many active pilots.
The number I heard last year was around 600k.

I bet there aren't even that many ,,,


"john smith" wrote in message
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Matt Barrow wrote:
I did say that your post was rather silly, posting it to a Newsgroup that
is
frequented by maybe 100-200 pilots out of the 750,000 active. It sounded
like whining to me.

Where did you get the 750k number?
There haven't been that many active pilots.
The number I heard last year was around 600k.

Jay Honeck wrote:

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Matt, one thing I discovered at OSH is that this group is HUGE, although
there are only a relative hand-full of regular posters.

I was meeting people all week long from this group, most of whom I had
never
heard of. They all started the conversation with "I'm mostly a lurker,
but..."


Lurking is a time honored Usenet tradition and should be encouraged. If you
lurk long enough you will eventually post..... And we all benefit in some
way from hearing other's opinions/wisdom, even if we don't always off our
own.

--
Frank....H

"John Larson" wrote in
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Blah blah blah.

It's whining if one does not take responsibility for ones irresponsible
actions. I include myself, if you don't include yourself or the original
poster, then whatever.

I repeat that it's best to keep such mistakes to oneself unless one is
thick-skinned enough to take the heat on a newsgroup.
Snipola

And exactly why should anyone give him any 'heat' at all?

Sounds more like childish playground bullying to me.

Brian
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Skywise wrote:


And exactly why should anyone give him any 'heat' at all?

Sounds more like childish playground bullying to me.

Brian

You are correct, it is childish bullying by people with apparently far
too much free time on their hands. As Peter correctly noted, there was
nothing in the original post that warrants such treatment. But, then,
this is usenet, which, unfortunately, is a magnet for people inclined
to such behavior.

Not to confuse the issue even more, but I didn't say those two sentences
that you are apparently attributing to me.

I'm not blaming anyone, either. It's just a damned shame of a situation.

No, but you essentially crapped on the CC company for not eating the
charge.

??? I don't believe it's the credit card company's fault, that's for sure.

My only comment is that the CC companies will never lose. If forced to
credit back the customer, they will charge back the FBO before they eat
anything themselves -- and they will ALWAYS take the word of the customer
ahead of the vendor.

In this particular case, especially, that would truly be a travesty of
justice.

Having been screwed multiple times by credit card companies in the three
years we've been a vendor (at the hotel), I can tell you that credit card
companies are run by the biggest pack of scum on the planet. They will
screw anyone and everyone, without provocation or excuse, to make a nickel.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"