Someone left a mess at CGX !

Dave S: Storm water overflow does not cause beaches to be closed. Raw
sewage
does.
You don't need to see solid matter for the sewage to be present.

Older cities have combined sewer/stormwater drainage systems. During
periods of heavy rainfall, CSO (Combined sewer overflows) occur in these
older systems, because the sewage treatment plant can't handle the
increased flow. Therefore, heavy rains do in fact result in raw sewage
draining into lakes, or rivers.

This problem violates EPA discharge laws. The offending systems are often
sued by the EPA to get into compliance. They then enter into Consent
Decrees with EPA to construct suitable upgrades.

by Rachel fakename@[EMAIL PROTECTED] Dec 6, 2005 at 07:30 PM

In article
outaviation.com,
"Skylune" wrote:

by Rachel fakename@[EMAIL PROTECTED] Dec 6, 2005 at 07:30 PM

.
yawn I can't believe some people find GA-bashing to be exciting.

I find it amazing that people spend tens of thousands of dollars to fly
small planes in circles, or in search of hamburgers, for the thrill of it.


To each her own, I guess, until they intrude on my rights.



Well, then why don't "Skyloon" and "jgrove" stop intruding on OUR rights?

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"Skylune" wrote in
lkaboutaviation.com:

by Rachel fakename@[EMAIL PROTECTED] Dec 6, 2005 at 07:30 PM

.
yawn I can't believe some people find GA-bashing to be exciting.

I find it amazing that people spend tens of thousands of dollars to fly
small planes in circles, or in search of hamburgers, for the thrill of it.


To each her own, I guess, until they intrude on my rights.

By that logic, you are intruding on my right to enjoy this news
group without snivelling little brats bitching about every thing
GA. Should I sue you?

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Skylune wrote:
by Rachel fakename@[EMAIL PROTECTED] Dec 6, 2005 at 07:30 PM


.
yawn I can't believe some people find GA-bashing to be exciting.

I find it amazing that people spend tens of thousands of dollars to fly
small planes in circles, or in search of hamburgers, for the thrill of it.


To each her own, I guess, until they intrude on my rights.

Who is flying tens of thousands of dollars to fly small planes in search
of hamburgers? Maybe you shouldn't make assumptions about my piloting
experience.

By the way, stop driving your car. The emmissions are bad for me.

"Orval Fairbairn" wrote \

Well, then why don't "Skyloon" and "jgrove" stop intruding on OUR rights?
#############################################

Even better a question is, why in the hell do they hang out here?

I guess some people thrive on rejection and abuse.

Pity. What losers.
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Jim in NC

On Sun, 4 Dec 2005 01:36:59 -0500, "Morgans"
wrote:


"sfb" wrote

Let's be honest. There was a time in the not too distant past where we
were not that careful about spills at airports, railroad yards, truck
depots, service stations, tank farms, etc. etc.

Shoot, I've seen grading equipment leaking hydraulic fluid by the gallons,
and still keep on working. It could be some of that, too.

Leak?

I was raided in rural Michigan. In the 40's and 50's they used to
*spray* the gravel roads with brine and/or oil. In many places they
even used what was affectionately known as "drip". Ever hear a car
run on that stuff? :-)) When changing the oil in cars and tractors
people were encouraged to spread it on the gravel roads to keep the
dust down. The brine truck used to make at least two trips a summer
down our road.

Most of the foundation for older roads around here has two or three
heavy coats of brine.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 13:33:01 GMT, kontiki
wrote:

Bob Fry wrote:
"Why inject logic"...we don't know, since you didn't inject logic, but
rather fairly wild, unsubstantiated speculation and conjecture.

Forgive me... I wasn't aware that you fell off of a turnip truck last night.

He's probably pretty close, particularly for those in the country or
older neighborhoods where now banned herbicides and pesticides were
used copiously.

A news report some years back stated that every year Americans throw
more oil out into the woods and/or roads than was lost in the Exxon
Valdez (sp?) incident.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

"Roger" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 4 Dec 2005 01:36:59 -0500, "Morgans"
wrote:


"sfb" wrote

Let's be honest. There was a time in the not too distant past where we
were not that careful about spills at airports, railroad yards, truck
depots, service stations, tank farms, etc. etc.

Shoot, I've seen grading equipment leaking hydraulic fluid by the
gallons,
and still keep on working. It could be some of that, too.

Leak?

I was raided in rural Michigan. In the 40's and 50's they used to
*spray* the gravel roads with brine and/or oil. In many places they
even used what was affectionately known as "drip". Ever hear a car
run on that stuff? :-)) When changing the oil in cars and tractors
people were encouraged to spread it on the gravel roads to keep the
dust down. The brine truck used to make at least two trips a summer
down our road.

Most of the foundation for older roads around here has two or three
heavy coats of brine.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

I remember that being done in the '60s and maybe even into the early 70's.
They would lay down coat of heavy oil then top it with fine gravel. A poor
mans asphalt.

"Roger" wrote

I was raided in rural Michigan.

I hope that being "raided" didn't set your development back too far! BFG

In the 40's and 50's they used to
*spray* the gravel roads with brine and/or oil.

I too remember the oil spraying.

In many places they
even used what was affectionately known as "drip". Ever hear a car
run on that stuff? :-))

Now, I'm clueless when you speak of "drip." What is it?

When changing the oil in cars and tractors people were encouraged to
spread it on
the gravel roads to keep the dust down. The brine truck used to make at
least two
trips a summer down our road.

Brine? As in sal****er, or something else?

Most of the foundation for older roads around here has two or three
heavy coats of brine.

That sounds like the tar oil type of stuff, like they still use between
coats of bitumenous (sp?) concrete. (asphalt)

I'm surprised you know about all of this road stuff. Did they really have
cars, back when you grew up? g,dr
--
Jim in NC
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Jim in NC