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Old January 15th 06, 07:45 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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In article , Larry Dighera wrote:

Here's what the FAA has to say:

http://www.avweb.com/news/features/184492-1.html


Being permanently NORDO, I much appreciate the timely reminder.

When flying, I am far more concerned about others not thinking to look
for me in the first place, than I am of not seeing others.

-Dan
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Old January 15th 06, 07:47 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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There are a few things that are dumber than flying a non standard
pattern at an uncontrolled airport. We have problems enough seeing
airplanes flying correct patterns ("What traffic on short final?") let
alone a guy sneaking onto final low from the wrong side.

I wonder how many I haven't seen. I've surely seen enough. Years ago I
remember seeing a yellow Cub flying cutting onto final from a treetop
pattern in front of me. It's an eye opener!

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Old January 15th 06, 08:01 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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In a previous article, Andrew Gideon said:
Admittedly, I've a bias. I lust after Cirruses a bit. For a while, I
thought one might be in my future (though now I lean more towards another
pair of seats).


For the same price as a new SR-22, you can get a 15 year old Malibu. The
Malibu looks like a much more capable plane. So where are people so
gaa-gaa about the SR-22?


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"Dad, I left my heart up there."
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Old January 15th 06, 09:57 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Ron Lee" wrote in message
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"Tony" wrote:

You don't have to make excuses when you use superior judgement to avoid
circumstances where you might have had to use superior skills!

Thanks for explaining.


I am not sure what that means but I have never claimed to be the best
pilot around. I make up for lesser skills than others with superior
judgement!

Ron Lee


He said you made the right choice instead of trying to salvage the landing.

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DW


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Old January 15th 06, 10:02 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Ron Lee" wrote in
"John Doe" wrote:

Before you rip on too many Cirrus owners, did he have to go around for
poor
airspeed control?


Maybe not, but his poor/unsafe pattern entry did distract me from
proper airspeed management.


If that's all it takes, maybe you are more of a danger to yourself and
others than you think.

Thus he was the one creating unsafe
conditions.


There are myriad regular distractions at least this distracting that happen
regularly. You said that your stellar judgement keeps you out of situations
where superior skill is necessary. Perhaps you should avoid flying anywhere
but near remote deserted airports.

Although I could have landed long, I decided it made
more sense to go around. No shame in that. Especially with an poor
pilot in a Cirrus behind me.


Pot, kettle, etc.

Is John Doe your name or are you afraid to use your real name like I
do?


Godlike. Your courage is an example to us all.

moo


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Old January 15th 06, 10:06 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Paul Tomblin" wrote in message
In a previous article, Andrew Gideon said:
Admittedly, I've a bias. I lust after Cirruses a bit. For a while, I
thought one might be in my future (though now I lean more towards another
pair of seats).


For the same price as a new SR-22, you can get a 15 year old Malibu. The
Malibu looks like a much more capable plane. So where are people so
gaa-gaa about the SR-22?


Warranty. Especially for people who are sharing a plane. Good sales team
as well. Spend an hour or two in one and they become difficult not to like.
Have you flown one?

moo


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Old January 15th 06, 10:27 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Paul Tomblin wrote:

or the same price as a new SR-22, you can get a 15 year old Malibu. The
Malibu looks like a much more capable plane. So where are people so
gaa-gaa about the SR-22?


It's lust. Who can explain lust?

- Andrew

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Old January 15th 06, 10:47 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On 15 Jan 2006 11:47:46 -0800, "Tony" wrote in
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There are a few things that are dumber than flying a non standard
pattern at an uncontrolled airport.


Would you characterize straight-in instrument approach in VMC as a
standard pattern?

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Old January 15th 06, 10:48 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Tony" wrote

There are a few things that are dumber than flying a non standard
pattern at an uncontrolled airport.


Well, hardly, but your point is well taken. My point is that it happens all
the time, so get used to it. Someone flying a non-standard pattern should
not become a semi-emergency. There are lots of ways to deal with it.

Also, having the ability to make a short approach when one is necessary is a
good tool to have in your toolbox.

BTW, I have seen just as many bone-headed moves made by pilots in light
singles as in any other aircraft.

BDS


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Old January 16th 06, 12:37 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Yes, I had been wondering what had happened to my post in reponse to "Bryan
Porters" first flight response. I dont know how I managed to reply under
this topic.

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John Huthmaker
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"Ron Lee" wrote in message
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"John Huthmaker" wrote:

Congratulations. I have been waiting for your post since you told us last
week of your plans. Welcome to the wonderful world of "Real" flying;
something so many people think is an impossible feat.

--
John Huthmaker


Care to explain what you are talking about?

Ron Lee



 




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