Cost of State Registration?

It is about the only thing in Illinois that works well, back
when I lived in Springfield it was $5 and even CFI renewal
clinics were free, of course the FAA actually did those,
before that was left to the associations and businesses to
renew CFIs.

Must be where all the money from those danged tollways has been going...

;-)
--
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Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Joe Morris wrote:

...and the assessor's office tries to make that "it doesn't matter if
it's based in another state."

Every time I fly into the Los Angeles area (usually parking at
Long Beach) I can rely on a query from the county assessor's office
showing up a month or two later demanding that I certify the amount
of time that I was in California, or expect to be paying property tax.



Let me see if I understand this. CA expects you to pay property tax if
you park your plane there for a few days, even if you live outside CA?

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I cannot speak for a C-172.
but a 1965 Piper Pawnee worth about $30K when we bought it,
and a Grob 103 sailplane worth about $35K
and an LS-4 sailplane worth about $25K
and two other planes that have depreciated below tax value.
all others are depreciated annually by the tax dept.

We paid a total of $445 in 2005.
BT

"Montblack" wrote in message
...
("BTIZ" wrote)
No charge in NV,
but we do pay "personal property tax" on them


On a 172 worth, say, $50K how much tax would that be in Nevada?


Montblack

"Chris W" wrote in message
news:FzSAf.1364$2o5.694@dukeread11...
Let me see if I understand this. CA expects you to pay property tax if you
park your plane there for a few days, even if you live outside CA?

No. They expect him to stipulate that he has not operated the airplane
within CA for whatever time period it is that WOULD require him to pay their
tax.

I'm surprised that the county assessor is so thorough that they manage to
observe every single time he shows up. Maybe they have some arrangement
with ATC? But the general idea isn't unique to CA; Washington State has a
similar law, requiring airplanes operated in the state for some minimum
amount of time per year to pay the excise tax. But as far as I know, they
aren't so aggressive about collecting it. I think you'd have to be a pretty
egregious violator for them to notice.

Pete

In article ,
"Michael Ware" wrote:

Enacted July 7, 2005. Went into effect Jan 1.

Thanks. I stopped registering the plane when the price went from $12 to
$100. I have been waiting for it to come back down.

Chris W wrote:
Joe Morris wrote:

...and the assessor's office tries to make that "it doesn't matter if
it's based in another state."

Every time I fly into the Los Angeles area (usually parking at
Long Beach) I can rely on a query from the county assessor's office
showing up a month or two later demanding that I certify the amount
of time that I was in California, or expect to be paying property tax.



Let me see if I understand this. CA expects you to pay property tax if
you park your plane there for a few days, even if you live outside CA?

_If_ California applies the 1.25% "property tax" _only_ to out of state
property brought into the state but not to property created or exchanged
intra-state, they may be acting in violation of the Commerce clause of
the U.S. Constitution[1] if the tax discriminates against interstate
commerce.

In Woosley v. State of California[2][3] the state lost the right to
charge a tax only against those who bought their cars out of state and
brought them into the state.

[1] "Section 8 - Powers of Congress
[...]
To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States,
and with the Indian Tribes;"

Also possibly related:
"Section 9 - Limits on Congress
[...]
No Preference shall be given by any Regulation of Commerce or Revenue to
the Ports of one State over those of another: nor shall Vessels bound to,
or from, one State, be obliged to enter, clear, or pay Duties in
another."

"Section 10 - Powers prohibited of States
[...]
No State shall, without the Consent of the Congress, lay any Imposts or
Duties on Imports or Exports, except what may be absolutely necessary for
executing it's inspection Laws: and the net Produce of all Duties and
Imposts, laid by any State on Imports or Exports, shall be for the Use of
the Treasury of the United States; and all such Laws shall be subject to
the Revision and Controul of the Congress."

[2] http://www.propertytaxrefunds.biz/woosley.htm
[3] http://www.bajaquest.com/bajanews/archives/archv004.htm

"john smith" wrote:

Thanks. I stopped registering the plane when the price went from
$12 to $100. I have been waiting for it to come back down.

I like lower taxes like anybody, but in Ohio as referenced here, if you
live in smog-check County, and a County with auto-registration add-on
tax, your dinky little compact truck costs you $75 to register. Have a
pilot-specific vanity plate it's then $95. Airplane was to be $100, but
that money was by new law to go to a dedicated airport improvement fund.

AOPA I think shot itself in the foot bitchin' about this tax. Made us
look like a bunch of cheapskates before State legislators and the Office
of Aviation. Flying in to talk to latter people in AOPA's CitationJet,
as the Office is located on an airport.

Agree or not, I thought it was comical. AOPA wrote letters to Gov. Bob
Taft pleading for relief on our behalf. Yes, a [slightly competent]
member of the prestigious Taft family, but who at the time was under
criminal investigation. For not reporting a constituent gift of a set
of freakin' golf balls. Pure politics. Taft recently pleaded no
contest to the misdemeanor; no jail time.

I get the image of Taft barking at his Chief of Staff, "Who's this guy
named Boyer? Find out what the First Lady pays to register her car.
And get my criminal defense att'y on the phone!" :-)

Fred F.

Here's the link.

http://www.dot.state.oh.us/Aviation/.../06Reg4Web.pdf


"john smith" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"Michael Ware" wrote:

Enacted July 7, 2005. Went into effect Jan 1.

Thanks. I stopped registering the plane when the price went from $12 to
$100. I have been waiting for it to come back down.

In article ,
"TaxSrv" wrote:

"john smith" wrote:

Thanks. I stopped registering the plane when the price went from
$12 to $100. I have been waiting for it to come back down.

I like lower taxes like anybody, but in Ohio as referenced here, if you
live in smog-check County, and a County with auto-registration add-on
tax, your dinky little compact truck costs you $75 to register. Have a
pilot-specific vanity plate it's then $95. Airplane was to be $100, but
that money was by new law to go to a dedicated airport improvement fund.

AOPA I think shot itself in the foot bitchin' about this tax. Made us
look like a bunch of cheapskates before State legislators and the Office
of Aviation. Flying in to talk to latter people in AOPA's CitationJet,
as the Office is located on an airport.

Rudy is much of a voice for aviation in Ohio.

Agree or not, I thought it was comical. AOPA wrote letters to Gov. Bob
Taft pleading for relief on our behalf. Yes, a [slightly competent]
member of the prestigious Taft family, but who at the time was under
criminal investigation. For not reporting a constituent gift of a set
of freakin' golf balls. Pure politics. Taft recently pleaded no
contest to the misdemeanor; no jail time.

Taft's former Chief of Staff is still under indictment for actions in
his previous employ. Access to the Governor was so very tightly
controlled by the former Chief of Staff that many in the state wonder
what Taft actually knew. His staff is so afraid of his volatile temper
that they would not tell the Governor bad news.

I get the image of Taft barking at his Chief of Staff, "Who's this guy
named Boyer? Find out what the First Lady pays to register her car.
And get my criminal defense att'y on the phone!" :-)

Mr Meeks?

"john smith" wrote:
AOPA I think shot itself in the foot bitchin' about this tax. Made
us
look like a bunch of cheapskates before State legislators and the
Office
of Aviation. Flying in to talk to latter people in AOPA's
CitationJet,
as the Office is located on an airport.

Rudy is much of a voice for aviation in Ohio.


Rudy _was_ the voice for aviation in Ohio. He's moved on to Port
Authority Director out in a big city in the Northwest. He meekly told
media out there that he was "just an airplane guy." We in our airport
association had met him. A pilot himself in the state's little twin,
but on around 60K salary didn't fly his own plane AFAIK. He probably
had perspective on AOPA lobbying, but I still criticize AOPA for telling
any official in my Ohio that I can't afford $100, for the pure purpose
of telling members in the other 49 that AOPA is working for you. The
"onerous tax" per AOPA's mag.

Fred F.