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"Jim Macklin" wrote in message
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The PIC can always say UNABLE, a magic word to controllers.


How so?

It is an official term, in the pilot/controller glossary
http://www.faa.gov/atpubs/PCG/U.HTM



UNABLE- Indicates inability to comply with a specific
instruction, request, or clearance.



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On Wed, 05 Apr 2006 13:31:41 GMT, Jose
wrote:

What does "cleared for the option" mean? Is it any whim on the part of
the pilot in the pattern, like a touch&go?

It means the pilot can land to a full stop, or touch and go, or do a low
approach to the runway ("peek and go?") without advising the controller
which option he will pick. Otherwise, if you are cleard for (say) a
touch and go, you are not cleared to do a full stop landing - you'd have
to tell him you want a full stop and he would have to clear you for that.

Thank you!


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In article et,
says...


CLEARED FOR THE OPTION- ATC authorization for an aircraft to make a
touch-and-go, low approach, missed approach, stop and go, or full stop
landing at the discretion of the pilot. It is normally used in training so
that an instructor can evaluate a student's performance under changing
situations.


I see it used often enough just to save time and effort. Instead of ATC
asking your intentions, you saying what you want to do, ATC clearing you and
you repeating the clearance - if you're on your fourth time around the
pattern, and there is no traffic conflict, ATC may just say "cleared for the
option" (do what you want to do) and from what I see it is customary to
answer with your intentions ("touch and go four left, seven mike tango")
rather than just leave them guessing.

GF

"Jim Macklin" wrote in message
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It is an official term, in the pilot/controller glossary
http://www.faa.gov/atpubs/PCG/U.HTM

UNABLE- Indicates inability to comply with a specific
instruction, request, or clearance.


That makes it a magic word?

Because ATC can't question you further, you've stated that
you are UNABLE to do whatever it is that they wanted, such
as a turn into a thunderstorm, or a land and hold short. No
need to argue, just say unable and then tell them what you
can do... saves a lot of time.



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| It is an official term, in the pilot/controller glossary
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"Jim Macklin" wrote in message
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Because ATC can't question you further, you've stated that
you are UNABLE to do whatever it is that they wanted, such
as a turn into a thunderstorm, or a land and hold short. No
need to argue, just say unable and then tell them what you
can do... saves a lot of time.


Well, just saying UNABLE doesn't magically tell them what you intend to do.

That makes it a magic word?

It's a metaphor.

Jose
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"Jose" wrote in message
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It's a metaphor.


A metaphor that the user needs to explain.

No, but it puts them on the "what do you want to do" rather
than the do as I say.



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| Because ATC can't question you further, you've stated
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| you are UNABLE to do whatever it is that they wanted,
such
| as a turn into a thunderstorm, or a land and hold short.
No
| need to argue, just say unable and then tell them what
you
| can do... saves a lot of time.
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| Well, just saying UNABLE doesn't magically tell them what
you intend to do.
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