MoGas users: Ethanol replacing MTBE

Hitler did not declare war on England, he signed a treaty
with them. Did the same with Russia.

International law of warfare does not require that the USA
or any other nation wait until they have been attacked when
the "attacker" has made it clear that they will attack.
Furthermore, the USA has treaties with Israel and other
nations that require that we defend those nations, see NATO
etc.

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From: Martin Hotze
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Subject: MoGas users: Ethanol replacing MTBE
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 11:59:28 +0200
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"Martin Hotze" wrote in message
...
| On Sun, 30 Apr 2006 04:30:24 -0500, "Jim Macklin"
| wrote:
|
| so why
| should the USA grant them a sanctuary?
|
| the USA has nothing to do there. No _actual_ threat, no
declaration of war
| from Iran, no attack from Iran, nothing - according to
international law
| that would justify an invasion (by US troops). Ah well ..
wait a minute ..
| you never gave sh*t on international law.
|
| #m
|
| Yes, I agree they (Iran) should be more cooperative etc.
| --
| "We're out of toilet paper sir!"
|
http://www.webcrunchers.com/crunch/Play/history/stories/toilet.html

On Sun, 30 Apr 2006 05:44:28 -0400, Cub Driver usenet AT danford DOT net
wrote:

Then you ought to understand why few Americans give a hoot about
Germany, Russia, France, and all that.

... and still you interfere ...

#m
--
"We're out of toilet paper sir!"
http://www.webcrunchers.com/crunch/Play/history/stories/toilet.html

On Sun, 30 Apr 2006 05:10:58 -0500, "Jim Macklin"
wrote:

Hitler

how comes that you come up with this wacko?

did not declare war on England,

but England declared war on Germany on Sept 3rd 1939.

he signed a treaty
with them. Did the same with Russia.

and now?

International law of warfare does not require that the USA

don't you understand that the USA gives sh*t on international law and
treaties?

or any other nation wait until they have been attacked when
the "attacker" has made it clear that they will attack.
Furthermore, the USA has treaties with Israel and other
nations that require that we defend those nations, see NATO
etc.

well, a preemptive strike then.

#m
--
"We're out of toilet paper sir!"
http://www.webcrunchers.com/crunch/Play/history/stories/toilet.html

second nuke IRAN so that
the uncertainty about the future supply will go away.

Well, that was more or less the theory about the invasion of Iraq,
which is still pumping less than it did before the invasion. In other
words, the war exacerbted the shortage instead of allieviating it.

Although I'm not in favor of nuking Iran, I must point out that you're
judging the results in Iraq with typical American impatience.

The outcome of this war won't be known for decades. I believe history
will look favorably on the decision to intervene when we did -- as it
will when we are forced to do something in Iran.

Our attempts to nail democracy onto the feet of natives who clearly are
barely out of the stone age may be looked upon less favorably, however.
In retrospect, we probably should have done things the British way.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Yes, just like how our good friends, the European allies, helped us "disarm"
Iraq with the Oil for Fools scandal. It's no wonder why we put such so
faith in world diplomacy acting against renegade nations.

You need to understand that your instransigence, corruption and greed
deprives us of effective diplomacy. And then, what's left? Military action
and European whining. Well, never mind. Your politicians have their
million/billions.

If you think it is "our" world (and I agree with you, here), then it's time
to start acting like it.


you first have to find a solution how you then can bring out the oil after
you have contaminated a good part of OUR world (note: it is not _yours_
alone).

If you think it is "our" world (and I agree with you, here), then it's time
to start acting like it.

Well said.

For three generations, since at least World War I, Europeans have been
trained to know that all they have to do is drag their feet and whine
about "doing the right thing" until *(Fill in the blank international
crisis)* grows untenable -- at which point everyone knows the U.S. will
be forced to step in and do the dirty work.

I would have thought that the terrorist attacks in Madrid and London
might have shocked the peoples of Europe into awareness, but this did
not happen. Only when Europe outgrows this infantile stage, and truly
engages in the diplomatic world, will the free world be able to
effectively counter Islamo-Fascism.

Until then, I'm afraid we're on our own.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

snip

Not exactly Yankees - Kansas and Oklahoma are worlds unto themselves.


Montblack

Thank God!

Joe Schneider
Happy 3rd World Citizen
8437R



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On 30 Apr 2006 05:46:15 -0700, Jay Honeck wrote:

I would have thought that the terrorist attacks in Madrid and London
might have shocked the peoples of Europe into awareness, but this did

well, I think we are aware. But we are not trying to call other people
"camel ****ers" or try to bring them "our culture". well, we have some
extreme right wingers here, too.

not happen. Only when Europe outgrows this infantile stage, and truly
engages in the diplomatic world, will the free world be able to

we are very sorry that we have to be in _this_ diplomatic world. We have to
endure the visit of the president of the US in our capitol. It costs us
millions to host him and closes businesses and restricts the rights of
_our_ citizens. We even have to seal duct covers just like the Germans had
to do during his last visit. With such friends you don't need enemies.

effectively counter Islamo-Fascism.

Until then, I'm afraid we're on our own.

You are on your own, but you (the US) is trying to shove everyone your
opinion and viewpoint up his ass.
Just give it a try and leave everybody alone with their problems. Maybe
you're right and we have to come back whining and asking for your help.
Then you can decide and demand whatever you want for your help. You never
gave it a try.

#m
--
"We're out of toilet paper sir!"
http://www.webcrunchers.com/crunch/Play/history/stories/toilet.html

Iran invaded and held sovereign American territory. What more does a
country need to justify war?

" the USA has nothing to do there. No _actual_ threat, no declaration of
war
from Iran, no attack from Iran, nothing - according to international law
that would justify an invasion (by US troops). Ah well .. wait a minute ..
you never gave sh*t on international law.

Cub Driver opined

On 29 Apr 2006 11:43:11 -0700, "Doug"
wrote:

Yes, it is possible to buy mogas without ethanol or any of the other
additives. The self serve pumps at Platte Valley in Colorado have it.
They buy it from the refiner.

The additives are mandated in the southern three counties of New
Hampshire (where the population is, and proximity to Massachusetts).
The rest of the state pumps real gasoline and presumably will continue
to do so. The same is true of Maine.

Gasahol has turned up in Campton NH in the last week. Prolly to cut the number
of types of fuel to be delivered.

It is state law, not federal, that makes these rules. I believe there
is a Northeast compact between New York and the New England states on
the matter. Unsure what it takes to lift it, but note that the New
Hampshire legislature meets only one year out of two ...

They are meeting at the moment, and generating more bad laws.


-ash
Cthulhu in 2005!
Why wait for nature?