Dress Code

On 2006-09-21, Jay Honeck wrote:
large, very dumb corporations. If any further evidence of the need to
privatize the FAA is necessary, I will be very surprised.

I fail to see how privatization will fix the problem.

Because in a private company, without all the ridiculous "work rules"
that Federal employees can currently hide behind, insubordinate
employees can be effectively weeded out.

The Union will still be there, and the union can cause the same troubles
for a private company as it can for the Federal government, including
illegal walk-outs. That's the knub of the matter - privatizing the FAA
won't make the unions suddenly vanish or change attitude. If anything,
it'll cause attitudes to harden.

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Jay Honeck wrote:
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My God. I had no idea the FAA was so controlled by their union that
they feel they must put up with this sort of thing. Imagine -- they've
got a current employee, on staff, who runs a website solely for the
purposes of impugning his employer!

Jay, I really like you, but, get your head out of your ..., well, you
know what I mean.

We happen to live in a FREE country where one has the right to speak
ones mind against the government even if the government is your employer.

And what a fool. He has neatly and succinctly documented his own
insubordination. Snidely referring to the company CEO as "Maid
Marion?" Documenting the insubordination of his fellow employees in a
photographic record, and publishing it worldwide?

Insobordination is not calling someone a name. I can call my boss
whatever I want as long as when he says jump, I jump. I can protest my
having to jump, but I jump.

In the real world (meaning anything outside of our totally screwed up
government) his career would be measured in nanoseconds.

Not really. My ex-husband once worked for a major pharmacutical company
and they were doing an efficiency study. The team came upon a
researcher sleeping in his office. When they reported this to upper
management they responded with "YOU DIDN'T WAKE HIM UP DID YOU????".
Apparently this researcher came to work everyday and slept all day.
Once every few years he'd wake up, write down a formula and make many
millions for the company.

You live in a service industry mindset.
My respect for controllers could not have been more diminished. Quite
frankly, after many years of holding the FAA in the highest regard, I
now must admit that I've never seen an organization with a more
self-destructive workforce in my life -- and I've worked for some very
large, very dumb corporations. If any further evidence of the need to
privatize the FAA is necessary, I will be very surprised.


If you think wearing business attire while working in a tower is
important I suggest you look at your priorities. I want my controllers
to be as comfortable as possible. I think we should require the
government to issue comfy sweats and slippers to all.

Margy
What a shame.
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Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Insobordination is not calling someone a name. I can call my boss
whatever I want as long as when he says jump, I jump. I can protest my
having to jump, but I jump.

So, let's you and me put together a web page devoted to insulting and
inviting ridicule upon your current supervisor, all in the interest of
"free speech". Then let's publicize it to your co-workers. Let's see
how long you are employed.

If it's longer than 72 hours, you clearly work for the government.

Not really. My ex-husband once worked for a major pharmacutical company
and they were doing an efficiency study. The team came upon a
researcher sleeping in his office. When they reported this to upper
management they responded with "YOU DIDN'T WAKE HIM UP DID YOU????".
Apparently this researcher came to work everyday and slept all day.
Once every few years he'd wake up, write down a formula and make many
millions for the company.

That's funny. But the company should've sent him home, and paid him as
a contractor, rather than leave him in place as a horrible example for
all to see. That's the kind of performance example that can seriously
harm employee morale, output and work ethic.

You live in a service industry mindset.

America would be a much better place if our government would remember
that they *are* a service industry.

If you think wearing business attire while working in a tower is
important I suggest you look at your priorities. I want my controllers
to be as comfortable as possible. I think we should require the
government to issue comfy sweats and slippers to all.

I guess I don't really care what controllers wear. What I *do* care
about is that they think their supervisors shouldn't be allowed to set
dress code guidelines. That is indicative of a serious management
deficit inside the FAA.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination".

I guess I don't really care what controllers wear.

Ok, we agree there.

What I *do* care
about is that they think their supervisors shouldn't be allowed to set
dress code guidelines.

Well, I certainly think they shouldn't set dress code guidelines. While
that's not the same as "shouldn't be allowed to...", it's part of the
picture. Having management waste time, energy, and political capital on
trivia is indicative of management that doesn't care how good the
"product" is (see the first response, above), but rather, cares more
that they are perceived as "the top dog - the big banana - el mucho
macho...". This is a management that sees its first job as bossing
people around, rather than being a leader.

=This= is the management deficit inside the FAA - management that cares
about trivia and is on a power trip.

Jose
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Jay Honeck wrote:
http://vanityfairmusings.blogspot.co...n-hall-of.html


My God. I had no idea the FAA was so controlled by their union that
they feel they must put up with this sort of thing. Imagine -- they've
got a current employee, on staff, who runs a website solely for the
purposes of impugning his employer!

And what a fool. He has neatly and succinctly documented his own
insubordination. Snidely referring to the company CEO as "Maid
Marion?" Documenting the insubordination of his fellow employees in a
photographic record, and publishing it worldwide?

In the real world (meaning anything outside of our totally screwed up
government) his career would be measured in nanoseconds.

My respect for controllers could not have been more diminished. Quite
frankly, after many years of holding the FAA in the highest regard, I
now must admit that I've never seen an organization with a more
self-destructive workforce in my life -- and I've worked for some very
large, very dumb corporations. If any further evidence of the need to
privatize the FAA is necessary, I will be very surprised.

I'm sure when they are privatized the dress code will go away. Then we
can pay user fees and the controllers will wear what they want. They
sit in little dark rooms or up in tall towers. Who cares what they wear?

Margy

What a shame.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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My respect for controllers could not have been more diminished.

I kind of like it. I'm not sure it was appropriate for the controller to be
so insulting, but the dress code rebellion itself is kind of amusing. (It's
not going to last long, it makes a point, nobody gets hurt, people get a
laugh out of it, etc.)

Never in my life as a pilot or passenger have I ever spent a second thinking
about what the ATC was dressed like. The degree of their professionalism
and competence will be measurable by the safety record at the airport and
any comments, complaints or observations that pilots or staff might report.

Were I the decisionmaker here, it would be: Rebel however you want but have
suitable professional attire ready on very sort notice, because if the
President or the Boy Scouts show up for a tour we better not find you in an
"I'm with Stoopit" T-shirt.

-c
PP-ASEL-IA

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Which one is you?


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Montrose, CO (MTJ)

Uh, no. You get shot here in Montana for wearing anything like that,
for any reason.




Matt Barrow wrote:
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Which one is you?

"Newps" wrote in message
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Uh, no. You get shot here in Montana for wearing anything like that, for
any reason.


And in most parts of Colorado outside Denver/Boulder or Vail/Aspen.


Matt Barrow wrote:
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Which one is you?

On Tue, 19 Sep 2006 21:40:01 -0600, Newps wrote
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