First-hand video of a BRS deployment.

On 10 Feb 2007 16:25:25 -0800, "Kev" wrote:

On Feb 10, 4:20 pm, "Morgans" wrote:
"Jim Carriere" wrote

Hmm! At first glance that conclusion seems counterintuitive, but I guess
you learn something new every day.

But leaving an event up to chance as the avoidance mechanism, is not
something that sits well with people. I have to feel that way, in that the
results of "winning" the odds are so dire.

Absolute agreement. To me, it's a good reason to be "heads up" when
flying over VORs, since they can really concentrate aircraft. Most
of us are spending more time on the gauges watching for the arrow to
change.

I see more aircraft close to VORs than any other place except in the
traffic pattern. When you are headed one way and opposing VFR traffic
is only 500 feet above or below if they are right on altitude they
look *CLOSE*. :-))

Still, maybe it's a non-issue, since we don't seem to hear of lots of
collisions around VORs. Seems like mid-airs are mostly around
airports. Anyone know the real stats of locations offhand?

I don't have any stats, but from what I remember in the news in recent
years "it seems" as if most mid airs are close to airport. OTOH there
are some outstanding exceptions such as the two jets last fall or
summer down in South America.

Thanks, Kev
Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

Roger wrote:
I don't know what it is about that site, but my firewalls and blockers
will not accept it. At least one of them has it on the blocked list.

While checking BRS parachute descent rates, I discovered that BRS has
almost the same video on their web site (linked from their home page):

http://brsparachutes.com/Movies/CNN_OFF_AIR.wmv

("Roger" wrote)
I don't know what it is about that site, but my firewalls and blockers
will not accept it. At least one of them has it on the blocked list.


Try YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTemKnL8X30
Mid-air


Montblack

On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 00:49:29 -0600, "Montblack"
wrote:

("Roger" wrote)
I don't know what it is about that site, but my firewalls and blockers
will not accept it. At least one of them has it on the blocked list.


Try YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTemKnL8X30

Strange, U-Tube works, but it also blocks the CNN site video.
I also saw the other U-tube clip but that one did not appear to show
the tow rope impact as did this one.

In the first video it appeared he just pulled the nose up and then
blew the chute. In the second one you can see the tow rope.

Now if he'd just get smart enough to fly the airplane and have some
one else do the photography, or will he be like the guy we had at the
airport that ran out of gas three times in a couple of months before
trashing a 172. Then he had another one for maybe 6 months before he
stalled the engine on a taxiway, got out and propped it (battery was
dead) but forgot to retard the throttle. It left without him and ended
up in the trees on the SW corner of the airfield. About 6 months later
he piled up and Emeraud putting himself and another guy in the
hospital. They did both survive and the Emeraud is flying. (different
pilot):-)).

Mid-air


Montblack

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

I have a piece of old technology called a map that I use for primary
navigation (yes, I still draw my course on the chart for every
cross-country flight) and the GPS is used to give me a quick check of my
groundspeed and a quick check. I do have the capability to fly to/from
a VOR with my Icom handheld. I don't have an electrical system in my
plane...and...what good is flying to/from a VOR in a plane that does
have an electrical system and that electrical system fails (assuming
they are not carrying a handheld for backup)? We all have to revert
back to using a map.

Scott




Mxsmanic wrote:

Scott writes:


VORs? Who flies over VORs? GPS eliminated VOR in my vocabulary in 1993


Anyone who wants to stay safe in the air flies VORs periodically. I practice
it regularly.

What will you do when GPS is jammed in your area?

Recently, Kev posted:

On Feb 10, 4:20 pm, "Morgans" wrote:
"Jim Carriere" wrote

Hmm! At first glance that conclusion seems counterintuitive, but I
guess you learn something new every day.

But leaving an event up to chance as the avoidance mechanism, is not
something that sits well with people. I have to feel that way, in
that the results of "winning" the odds are so dire.

Absolute agreement. To me, it's a good reason to be "heads up" when
flying over VORs, since they can really concentrate aircraft. Most
of us are spending more time on the gauges watching for the arrow to
change.

Still, maybe it's a non-issue, since we don't seem to hear of lots of
collisions around VORs. Seems like mid-airs are mostly around
airports. Anyone know the real stats of locations offhand?

I don't know the stats, but I lost a friend in this exact scenario about a
year ago. His plane (homebuilt Lancair) overtook a C-172 with an IFR
student and instructor near a VOR. All were killed. I've avoided
overflying VORs since then.

Neil

Scott writes:

I have a piece of old technology called a map that I use for primary
navigation (yes, I still draw my course on the chart for every
cross-country flight) and the GPS is used to give me a quick check of my
groundspeed and a quick check.

I get the impression that the only map that many newer pilots look at is the
one that glows in a small rectangle in the cockpit of the aircraft.

--
Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail.

On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 18:28:23 +0100, Mxsmanic wrote:

Scott writes:

I have a piece of old technology called a map that I use for primary
navigation (yes, I still draw my course on the chart for every
cross-country flight) and the GPS is used to give me a quick check of my
groundspeed and a quick check.

I get the impression that the only map that many newer pilots look at is the
one that glows in a small rectangle in the cockpit of the aircraft.

Hell, no, mine don't glow! :-)

Ron "Far out, man!" Wanttaja

Nope...mine are made of paper and have as many folds as an accordion

Scott


Mxsmanic wrote:



I get the impression that the only map that many newer pilots look at is the
one that glows in a small rectangle in the cockpit of the aircraft.

Scott wrote
... [My maps] are made of paper and have as many folds as an accordion

Both my son and I thought one of the most difficult aviation skills to
master was folding and refolding charts while flying.

I take it back. We still don't have it mastered.