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Old March 8th 07, 01:24 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jose
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I know most agree that we are our brother's (and sister's) keeper.

I certainly don't agree. I am not in a zoo, with everyone else around
me being my "keeper". I would hope that were I to need assistance
people would come help me, but I would also hope that should I decide to
do something that somebody else doesn't think I should do, that they
would let me do it anyway.

That is what freedom is.

Jose
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Old March 8th 07, 01:37 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
C J Campbell
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On Wed, 7 Mar 2007 17:24:38 -0800, Jose wrote
(in article ) :

I know most agree that we are our brother's (and sister's) keeper.


I certainly don't agree. I am not in a zoo, with everyone else around
me being my "keeper". I would hope that were I to need assistance
people would come help me, but I would also hope that should I decide to
do something that somebody else doesn't think I should do, that they
would let me do it anyway.

That is what freedom is.


If I thought you were going to kill your 8 year old daughter I most certainly
would try to prevent it, no matter what your personal opinion of freedom was.

I might even try to prevent you from riding a bicycle without a helmet, if
for no other reason than that I am tired of having my tax and insurance
dollars going to support the paralyzed bozos who thought they had a right to
ride without one.


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Old March 8th 07, 02:10 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jose
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If I thought you were going to kill your 8 year old daughter I most certainly
would try to prevent it, no matter what your personal opinion of freedom was.

I might even try to prevent you from riding a bicycle without a helmet, if
for no other reason than that I am tired of having my tax and insurance
dollars going to support the paralyzed bozos who thought they had a right to
ride without one.


And that's how we end up in a nanny state. It starts with something
very reasonable, and then something less reasonable, and ends up with
all of us in cages.

Jose
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follow something, be it a leader, a creed, or a mob. Whosoever fully
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Old March 8th 07, 08:58 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
John Galban
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On Mar 7, 6:37 pm, C J Campbell
wrote:

I might even try to prevent you from riding a bicycle without a helmet, if
for no other reason than that I am tired of having my tax and insurance
dollars going to support the paralyzed bozos who thought they had a right to
ride without one.


Geez CJ, the bike helmet police? Are you serious? If you're really
concerned about your taxes and insurance dollars, why not go after
those that have a significant impact? I suggest hanging around at
McDonalds and knocking Big Macs and fries out of every obese person's
hands. Hang around outside a large office building and snatch the
cigarettes away from the smokers. Those are the people that have an
impact. Paralyzed bicyclists don't even register on the meter.

By the way, those paralyzed bozos did (in most cases) have a right
to ride without one. Just as most of us have a right to run with
scissors, or even slip with flaps :-)))

John Galban=====N4BQ (PA28-180)


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Old March 8th 07, 01:55 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
James Sleeman
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On Mar 8, 6:20 am, C J Campbell
wrote:
Ah yes. Suicide is such a beautiful, noble thing, according to some people.
This is a trend I would really like to see stop.


You wouldn't let a friend get behind the wheel when they are lagered
up, would you.

It's not something that can be totally elminated, humans are
unpredictable creatures at the best of times, but we must all be
vigilant, not only think "am I safe to fly today", but also "is my
mate safe to fly". If a fellow pilot seems a bit off then tell them
that, if they seem really off then do what you have to if they are
determined to fly.

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Old March 8th 07, 02:46 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Matt Barrow
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"C J Campbell" wrote in message
e.com...
Student pilot Eric Johnson kills himself and his eight-year-old daughter
by
slamming a plane into his former mother-in-law's house. The Indiana Star
notes that as a student pilot he was not allowed to carry passengers...
Apparently he practiced a few touch and goes before killing himself.

This seems to be getting to be a regular deal. Embry-Riddle instructors
killing themselves on the runway, other divorced pilots deliberately
crashing
into houses, people jumping out of airplanes on final and landing on power
lines so that their severed torsos splat a few feet away from small
children.

Ah yes. Suicide is such a beautiful, noble thing, according to some
people.
This is a trend I would really like to see stop.


A trend that has been running for 50,000 years....


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Old March 10th 07, 03:29 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
John Ousterhout
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A 90 year-old pilot is having breakfast at the airport with his son.

"I've got to get my medical next week. If Doc don't pass me I'm gonna
get in the Super Cub and fly out over the ocean til it runs out of gas."

"Dad, NO!... Not the Super Cub."

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Old March 10th 07, 03:35 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Dudley Henriques[_2_]
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John Ousterhout wrote:
A 90 year-old pilot is having breakfast at the airport with his son.

"I've got to get my medical next week. If Doc don't pass me I'm gonna
get in the Super Cub and fly out over the ocean til it runs out of gas."

"Dad, NO!... Not the Super Cub."


Priorities!!! The stuff of life :-)))
Dudley Henriques
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Old March 11th 07, 02:04 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Peter Dohm
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John Ousterhout wrote:
A 90 year-old pilot is having breakfast at the airport with his son.

"I've got to get my medical next week. If Doc don't pass me I'm gonna
get in the Super Cub and fly out over the ocean til it runs out of gas."

"Dad, NO!... Not the Super Cub."


Priorities!!! The stuff of life :-)))
Dudley Henriques


When I was young, there was an old gent who kept a Pitts Special in a hangar
at our local airport. He didn't no longer flew it (that was 30+ years ago)
and once told me that he planned to take one last flight--when he no longer
felt able to care for himself at home--and land it straight down on the
spinner out in the swamp.

The little plane was a thing of beauty ... nearly alive ... I was horrified!

I am still not sold on his (proposed) methodology,
but now, I can just barely manage a shrug. (sigh)

Peter


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Old March 11th 07, 02:29 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
brtlmj
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When I was young, there was an old gent who kept a Pitts Special in a hangar
at our local airport. He didn't no longer flew it (that was 30+ years ago)
and once told me that he planned to take one last flight--when he no longer
felt able to care for himself at home--and land it straight down on the
spinner out in the swamp.


Makes one wonder... how many spins from the turn to final are not
accidents at all...

Bartek

 




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