Pilots flying into Oregon must register with the state!?

Mxsmanic wrote:

Jose writes:


Yes, but if an official in that state calls something a Threat To
National Security, then that Threat has to be taken Seriously.


Which law mandates this? Is it anything like lettres de cachet?

No, that's French.

"Al G" wrote:
I've been a CFI in Oregon for 30+ years and am well aware of Oregon
Airmen Registration, but have never heard of this wording. I once
registered after a couple year layoff, and offered to pay the back
fees. A very nice lady called my office, and said that she had never
had anyone offer to pay back fees before, and they didn't know how to
handle it. I told her to donate it to the SAR fund, which by the way,
is where every dime of this money goes.

It probably only yields ~$96,000/year. Subtract off processing and there is
not likely to be a lot left. I can't see any fiscal advantage to
enforcement since the fund would probably go into the red paying all the
paperwork overhead and legal fees if even a small fraction of pilots put up
a defense against paying.

(I can't find the number of pilots who have residence in Oregon, but a
crude approximation is to divide the total U.S. pilot population of ~
600,000 by 50 and multiply by $8/year to get the above figure.)

Thanks Jim for bringing this to my attention. We have a VERY vocal EAA
here in Oregon, and we could probably follow this up a bit. This
should be changed before some eager bureaucrat gets the idiotic notion
he can collect from everybody that flies past. A law that is written
this way, and then not enforced, opens the opportunity for selective
enforcement, which is very bad.

Perhaps it might be worth while to check to see if the clause that makes
the pilot information publicly available violates any Oregon privacy laws
the state government has to abide by.

I appreciate the local EAA but I have to admit that so far I'm only a
member of the national EAA. I keep meaning to join the local chapter (EAA
31) but it seems redundant at the moment since I haven't got a pilot
certificate yet!

In article , "Al G" wrote:

lady called my office, and said that she had never had anyone offer to pay
back fees before, and they didn't know how to handle it. I told her to
donate it to the SAR fund, which by the way, is where every dime of this
money goes.

I have a hard time believing that every dime of the money actually
goes to the SAR fund and will continue to go there. Someone will
eventually claim that the fund needs to pay for the infrastructure
of bill collecting, etc etc

--
Bob Noel
(goodness, please trim replies!!!)

Mxsmanic wrote in
:

Jose writes:

The marshals have an interest in Threats To National Security.

A failure to register under an unconstitutional State law is not a
threat to national security, although it is certainly a threat to
civil liberties and constitutional rights.



Wonder how you know that...

Actualy, I don't wonder.


Bertie

"Jim Logajan" wrote in message
.. .

"837.020 Registration of pilots; renewal. (1) In the interest of public
safety and the safety of those people traveling by air or receiving
aviation instruction, every pilot operating within this state shall
register with the Oregon Department of Aviation within 60 days of
issuance of any appropriate effective federal certificate, permit, rating
or license relating to


Yeah, they've been trying to get me to do that since 1990. Every three
years or so I get a post card. I think they look for you
based on medical certificates.

-c
Oregon

"Robert M. Gary" wrote in message
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On Jun 11, 6:21 am, "Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net

If that were true medical pot smoking would be legal in California.
People go to jail for this in California because its a federal law
even though the state as a registration system for users who have Dr
approval. When my mom was dieing the Dr even suggested she try it (she
didn't). Its legal according to the state but if the feds find out
she'd go to jail.

Ironically, they'd have to pick up her medical expenses.

-c

"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote in message
...

Yes, but if an official in that state calls something a Threat To
National Security, then that Threat has to be taken Seriously.


Fine, please show one example where the marshalls have tried to enforce
this or some other silly state law.

That's the real deal right there. Who's been busted for it?

Similarly wrt to pot, the police will raid a place but as long as there's a
permit, they leave it alone. The rule is something like seven plants, but
they measure a plant by the stalk. So growers will bundle however many
plants they can into one "stalk", put it all in one giant bucket, and it's
legal. A cop told me they've found situations with seven planter pots
filling the entire room of a house, with maybe a dozen stalks per flowerpot,
and they don't even push the issue.

If other crimes are involved, however, it becomes an entirely different
matter. Then they lump all that together and hit you for everything they
can. So the moral is, if you pass through Oregon in an airplane, don't
commit a crime.

-c

"Jim Logajan" wrote in message
.. .
How do you know where to look
to find out which entity wants to put their hands in your pocket each time
you land at an airport in their jurisdiction?

Kinda reminds me of the Part 121 additions (scenic flights, etc)

I'm not afraid that I'll get caught doing something wrong, I'm afraid I'll
do something without knowing it's wrong and get cited on some convoluted
bureaucratic technicality.


-c

"Rocky" wrote in message
om...

As a resident of Oregon for 37+ years I will chime in here. If a pilot
lives here and flys he/she must register and pay the 8$ a year.

*cough*

What? What happens if you don't?


-c
Oregon

As a resident of Oregon for 37+ years I will chime in here. If a pilot
lives here and flys he/she must register and pay the 8$ a year.


*cough*

What? What happens if you don't?


-c
Oregon



Dunno, I stopped flying in '86 and have not paid since. Got a few post
cards asking for the payment but I replied that I don't fly
anymore.....Case closed. I would think if you refused to pay the fees
and sometime later crashed and used the S&R services the state provides,
You would probably see a fairly LARGE bill in the mail to cover the
expenses. After that I would asume real and personal property liens etc.....
I have never heard of the state going to those measures yet. Look at
it this way, its only $8 a year for ACTIVE pilots.