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Old August 25th 03, 09:08 PM
John S. Shinal
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(BUFDRVR) wrote:

The Yankee Air Force advertises their B-52 as the only privately
owned B-52 in the world. On the tour, they told me that it is not
part of the Air Force Museum program, and that it took some special
accreditidation for them to be able to obtain it.


Hmm, I'd be curious to know how they got such special accreditation. One thing
is the same though, that aircraft is available to be inspected under START II,
privately owned or not.


I *suppose* you could demil the thing by filling the bomb bay
with concrete (or actually, styrofoam peanuts - much harder to
remove), in such a way as to prevent it from ever carrying ordnance.
Ditto the pylon mounts, welded over/shut. Perhaps also hocusing the
fuel system in some way to prevent long range or air refueling.



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Old August 25th 03, 10:18 PM
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In article ,
B2431 wrote:
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- Pershing? laugh We've got our own freakin' Titan II sitting beside the
- road, protected by a three' fence at Gillespie Field. You don't see urban
- communities encroaching on THAT airfield!
-
-Ha! A Titan? So what. Cheyenne's got Minutemen and a Peacekeeper guarding
-their space. Titans, what a crock, those things blow up if ya drop a wrench
-on'em. Get a real missile.
-
-:-)
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-My ICBM is bigger than your ICBM?
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-Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired

It's all fun and games until someone gets vaporized.


Steve
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Old August 26th 03, 01:22 AM
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B2431 wrote:
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- Pershing? laugh We've got our own freakin' Titan II sitting beside
the
- road, protected by a three' fence at Gillespie Field. You don't see
urban
- communities encroaching on THAT airfield!
-
-Ha! A Titan? So what. Cheyenne's got Minutemen and a Peacekeeper guarding
-their space. Titans, what a crock, those things blow up if ya drop a wrench

-on'em. Get a real missile.
-
-:-)
-
-My ICBM is bigger than your ICBM?
-
-Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired

It's all fun and games until someone gets vaporized.


Steve

So Mommy was correct that one shouldn't run in the house with thermonuclear
devices?

Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired
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Old August 26th 03, 11:17 PM
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Except the frickin BUFF of course. It'll still be flying.

Until it _finally_ retires, and the crew ride home from the boneyard in
a C-130


Except it'll be a J model which is a C-130 in name and general appearence alone



BUFDRVR

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everyone on Bear Creek"
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Old August 26th 03, 11:18 PM
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Who owns 56-0689, the B-52D at the American Air Museum at Duxford?

The Air Force Museum.


BUFDRVR

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everyone on Bear Creek"
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Old August 26th 03, 11:20 PM
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Hmm, I'd be curious to know how they got such special accreditation. One
thing
is the same though, that aircraft is available to be inspected under START

II,
privately owned or not.


Is that the same for the one at Duxford?


Yep, and the one in Guam and Australia too.


BUFDRVR

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everyone on Bear Creek"
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Old August 27th 03, 12:36 AM
Bill Silvey
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"BUFDRVR" wrote in message

Hmm, I'd be curious to know how they got such special
accreditation. One thing is the same though, that aircraft is
available to be inspected under START II, privately owned or not.


Is that the same for the one at Duxford?


Yep, and the one in Guam and Australia too.


BUFDRVR

"Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if it
harelips everyone on Bear Creek"


I'm not trying to be smarmy, but as far as the USAF is concerned, what about
(as yet unrecovered) B52 wreckage hither and yon across the globe (SE asia,
the one that went down near Diego Garcia during DS1 etc.)? I'm guessing
"still ours" is their mindset?

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Old August 27th 03, 05:41 PM
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In article , BUFDRVR
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Who owns 56-0689, the B-52D at the American Air Museum at Duxford?


The Air Force Museum.


BUFDRVR

"Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if it harelips
everyone on Bear Creek"


Thanks. You do mean US, not Royal, I take it? :-)
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Old August 27th 03, 07:00 PM
John S. Shinal
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(BUFDRVR) wrote:
It doesn't matter what you do, the Russians are still able to inspect it to
verify it is in fact unable to fly and thus not counted as a capable nuclear
delivery platform.


I wasn't aware of the nuance in the wording - it has to be
incapable of flight ? Or just incapable of delivering ordnance (and
therefore not a nuclear weapons system anymore) ?

i.e the world's first KB-52 is a no-go ?



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Old August 27th 03, 09:05 PM
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Some southerners seem to have trouble grasping this fine point, but the
Yankees won the war.


Maybe. The Yankees got Newark. We got Miami Beach.

You decide




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